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    Is there any video left from the tournament with some nic fit matches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lueseto View Post
    Is there any video left from the tournament with some nic fit matches?
    Arianrhod is on camera for round 3 against ANT.

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    But where do I find it? is it on Twitch? on what stream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lueseto View Post
    But where do I find it? is it on Twitch? on what stream?
    https://go.twitch.tv/videos/184035695

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Dalton! View Post
    What Variant was the other Deck then?
    Junk value splashing blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plm View Post
    @ nyx fit : I've ditched evo leap (too much variation) and am currently testing 4 green sun 2 mirri's guile 1 scroll rack. As I play more creatures, green sun is back to its old self.
    Too much Variation? In my experience, leap is a card that can glue the deck togheter by itself. It's incredible in this way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memories of the Time View Post
    Too much Variation? In my experience, leap is a card that can glue the deck togheter by itself. It's incredible in this way
    Yeah, I'll admit I only have a few dozen games with Nyx Fit, but Leap definitely seems like a huge part of the deck. When you're only playing a few creatures, you're almost always going to hit either your combo piece (Rector) or something that can immediately pay for itself (VetExp). GSZ is great for tutoring up your first Vet or finding an Eternal Witness to get back something, but Leap lets you chain together the turn that wins you the game.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    @ evo leap

    When I says too much variation, I mean that it goes from overpowered monstrosity to a 2 mana do nothing slow as hell piece of shit. (okay I might be exaggerating a bit but you get the picture )
    And also it forces us too go all in on the rector plan. I might try with some intents instead (swapping re-usability for more tutoring choices and more freedom in deck construction ) alas my binders are in boxes so I have to wait until I move in my new flat.

    As of now I'm happier with a regular nic fit with a green sun package and a small rector package, the deck is a bit worse as a combo deck but the B plan is much better.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    @Plm: Even though I love Rhino Fit, you're probably best off w/ Brael's Bob Fit. It's probably the best Junk list around, by a mile.

    Also, 2 Nic Fit lists in T16? Cool! Placing 12.5% of T16 out of a 1.13% cut of the total meta is pretty damn good.

    And that Junk list w/ the U splash - WTF, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plm View Post
    @ evo leap

    When I says too much variation, I mean that it goes from overpowered monstrosity to a 2 mana do nothing slow as hell piece of shit. (okay I might be exaggerating a bit but you get the picture )
    And also it forces us too go all in on the rector plan. I might try with some intents instead (swapping re-usability for more tutoring choices and more freedom in deck construction ) alas my binders are in boxes so I have to wait until I move in my new flat.

    As of now I'm happier with a regular nic fit with a green sun package and a small rector package, the deck is a bit worse as a combo deck but the B plan is much better.
    For me, the main point is... you don't need a b Plan. If you are worried about Surgical, all you need is more Ground Seal (a very good card anyway, probably i'll try it maindeck) to protect yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memories of the Time View Post
    For me, the main point is... you don't need a b Plan. If you are worried about Surgical, all you need is more Ground Seal (a very good card anyway, probably i'll try it maindeck) to protect yourself.
    Would mainly agree here, definitely for game 1 at least. Deck has ~24 ways of getting a creature on-board to sac (though that drops to ~16 if you've run out arbor already) and doesn't take long to pull off a trigger after that.

    @Plm - I've considered combat walkers instead of lingering souls. Anything that produces a token can set off Evo Leap while also being able to take over a game by itself - think Gideon, Ally of Zendikar. Less premium options in little Elspeth and Garruk Relentless. To me that could form a stronger plan B while keeping a smaller Evo Leap package (maybe go to 2 leaps?). What I didn't like about that plan was that it replaces a bunch of 3cmc cards with 4cmc which feels like it'd make the deck clunkier and less able to stabilize. Maybe some other things could be tweaked, like taking out Curse of Death's Hold / Cruel Reality. Splendor + combat walkers beats fair decks, Dovescape beats unfair ones.

    With Arianrhod's success with Scapeshift, we might be getting ousted as the nic fit combo deck of choice. Watching him very easily flex between midrange beatdown and sudden combo victories (requiring only 1 card at that) was impressive and I plan to practice his list for a bit.

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    I've been testing the Scapeshift list from EW. I'm liking the results but I've got one major issue, Lands. I have had a horrid matchup against RG Lands and Turbo Depths in my practice matches. I'm either doing something wrong or missing some answers in the list. How are people beating Lands/Turbo Depths with this list? Are people just hoping to dodge it's good hands or am I just bad at the match-up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRuler View Post
    I've been testing the Scapeshift list from EW. I'm liking the results but I've got one major issue, Lands. I have had a horrid matchup against RG Lands and Turbo Depths in my practice matches. I'm either doing something wrong or missing some answers in the list. How are people beating Lands/Turbo Depths with this list? Are people just hoping to dodge it's good hands or am I just bad at the match-up?
    Turns out, it was basically a race.
    Last time I faced Lands with Scape was in 2013. I won G1 and G2 after taking a Marit Lage hit but at that time we were playing 2 Sakura 2 Wood Elves and 2 Huntmasters.
    Each time, I was able to go to 21 with a GSZ on Hunt and took a marit lage's hit followed by a scapekill the turn after.

    Nowadays, I cannot tell...

    Anyway, congratz Arian.
    I'm glad you switch to 10 mountains instead of 11 and 2 TS MD to complement 3 CT.
    I've always been a fan of 1 CT in the side for wish's purposes.
    I'm still not a fan of some of your creatures' choices (mainly Dinos) but that's me and time will tell.

    /clap. Impressive results.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by DrRuler View Post
    I've been testing the Scapeshift list from EW. I'm liking the results but I've got one major issue, Lands. I have had a horrid matchup against RG Lands and Turbo Depths in my practice matches. I'm either doing something wrong or missing some answers in the list. How are people beating Lands/Turbo Depths with this list? Are people just hoping to dodge it's good hands or am I just bad at the match-up?
    It's not good and comes to a race. You need to go full on combo plan. I board in extraction effects for crop rotation because rotation->chasm beats your scapeshift. Carnage Tyrant and Prime Time should be the only big bombs left if you need to leave in bombs (Tracker is fine though) because they pressure through Maze, but your plan A is Scapeshift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    @Plm: Even though I love Rhino Fit, you're probably best off w/ Brael's Bob Fit. It's probably the best Junk list around, by a mile.

    Also, 2 Nic Fit lists in T16? Cool! Placing 12.5% of T16 out of a 1.13% cut of the total meta is pretty damn good.

    And that Junk list w/ the U splash - WTF, lol.
    2 in the T16 is impressive. I think I might try the Jund build I posted a couple posts up. Just need to convince myself to buy Recruiters.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    The Junk list is really high on steroids...

    Ahahahah THAT curve !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralf View Post
    The Junk list is really high on steroids...

    Ahahahah THAT curve !
    I'm pretty comfortable saying that Junk list just got lucky. It's very low on interaction/removal. It likely hit a bunch of blue decks.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ralf View Post
    The Junk list is really high on steroids...

    Ahahahah THAT curve !
    Where are the Top 16 lists? Link plz :)

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ralf View Post
    The Junk list is really high on steroids...

    Ahahahah THAT curve !
    Can you call 2 lumps a curve? I call it a camel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brael View Post
    I'm pretty comfortable saying that Junk list just got lucky. It's very low on interaction/removal. It likely hit a bunch of blue decks.
    Bingo.

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    Where are the Top 16 lists? Link plz :)
    Go back a page man
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdematt View Post
    Where are the Top 16 lists? Link plz :)
    The T16 Nic Fit lists are back a page or two. 9-16 in general haven't been posted yet (that I've seen).

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