[DTB] Vial Goblins

[squ34k]

I test him at the moment, and he is very good, Vial makes him even better. And decks like Cephalid Breakfast decks arent happy to see it when their Sutured Ghoul is on the table. He is good against much decks.

My list at the moment:

Creatures (34)
4 Goblin Lackey
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Goblin Ringleader
4 Goblin Warchief
4 Goblin Matron
4 Gempalm Incinerator
4 Mogg Fanatic
2 Siege-Gang Commander
1 Tin Street Hooligan
1 Goblin Tinkerer
1 Goblin Sharpshooter
1 Stingscourger

Other spells (4
4 Aether Vial

Land (22
3 Bloodstained Mire
3 Wooded Foothills
4 Rishadan Port
4 Wasteland
4 Taiga
4 Mountain

Sideboard (15)
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Meekstone
3 Pyrokinesis
3 Krosan Grip
2 Tranquil Domain

Tips?

Mvg

I really like the RG setup and I'm liking the SB but how do you handle GY threats? Ichorid and such?

[Eldariel]

Basically, Mogg Fanatic. And your other removal against Cephalid Breakfast. But against Friggorid, you plan on removing their Bridges.

[Drossie]

People who play the green splash: don't you need the STP? I play the white splash and I really love my STP!

[dlevsApiJ]

They are good, but the green splash also gives you good things... If you dont play STP, you can play more goblin-removal mainboard (like 4Fanatic, 4Gempalm, Shooter, Stingscourger..) they are Much better with your Ringleader...

Mvg

[Drossie]

Can someone give me the pro's and con's of playing the green splash instead of the white one?
I'm playing the white one, but it seems the green is played more at this moment...

[Illissius]

Green splash:
T.S. Hooligan
Krosan Grip
Naturalize
Tranquil Domain
Ancient Grudge
Tarmogoyf

White splash:
Swords to Plowshares
Orim's Chant
Jotun Grunt
Armageddon
Disenchant
Orim's Thunder
Serenity
Shared Triumph

Black splash:
Snuff Out
Duress
Cabal Therapy
Planar Void
Leyline of the Void
Perish
Dystopia
Living Death
Patriarch's Bidding
Dralnu's Crusade

Multi splash:
Engineered Explosives
Vindicate
Ray of Revelation

The biggest advantage of the green splash is maindeck T.S. Hooligan, the only actual Goblin in this entire list. Krosan Grip might also be the second best anti-Plague card after Ray of Revelation. Black and white both give you better weapons against combo and Tarmogoyf.

edit -- actually, white does have Goblin Legionnaire, also a respectable Goblin, but he's rarely used.

[Jak]

I also have found that Extirpate to be a worthwhile card in the black splash. That with cabal therapy gives some good combo hate.

[Tacosnape]

I think that if I were going to splash Black I'd pick Planar Void over Extirpate here. Void is incredibly strong in the modern metagame, easy to cast, helps against those pesky Tarmogoyfs, and hurts Ichorid, Cephalid Breakfast, and Threshold.

[Drossie]

What's in the current meta the best color to splash? White or green?

[APriestOfGix]

This has stopped putting up results might it no longer be a DTB!?

[cheddercaveman]

This has stopped putting up results might it no longer be a DTB!?

I think this will almost always be a deck to beat. Right now you've got a situation where people think the deck is "dead" because it didnt place at GenCon so people are playing it less because of that. Also, there is still the usual goblins hate all over the place, another bad thing for the deck. And finally the fact that the splash color probably needs to change. Pyrokinesis and Gempalm have trouble dealing with 'goyf. Seems like its time for a black splash. Terror, Duress, Planar Void all seem to solve the current problems the deck has fairly well.

Additionally, sounds like black is going to be the other goblin color in Lorwyn, so might be additional good stuff there too.

[DragoFireheart]

I think this will almost always be a deck to beat. Right now you've got a situation where people think the deck is "dead" because it didnt place at GenCon so people are playing it less because of that. Also, there is still the usual goblins hate all over the place, another bad thing for the deck. And finally the fact that the splash color probably needs to change. Pyrokinesis and Gempalm have trouble dealing with 'goyf. Seems like its time for a black splash. Terror, Duress, Planar Void all seem to solve the current problems the deck has fairly well.

Additionally, sounds like black is going to be the other goblin color in Lorwyn, so might be additional good stuff there too.

It seems black is the color for goblins, but I would argue using Terror. Smother is a better choice as it lets you [on the off chance] kill a black or artifact creature.

[Happy Gilmore]

Don't quote me but I think with Goblins being a major tribe in Lorwyn, things are going to happen.

[Lemuria]

Black doesen't get rid off Plague.

[GreenOne]

Black doesen't get rid off Plague.

You can play Dralnu's Crusade. Sure, plague is still in play, but you can get rid of the effect. It's also far from dead if the opponent doesn't draw the plague, and is good vs Hydroblast and protection from red.

It seems black is the color for goblins, but I would argue using Terror. Smother is a better choice as it lets you [on the off chance] kill a black or artifact creature.

Snuff Out is probalby better then both. Works well around Daze, Counterbalance and Spell Snare, doesn't slow your clock down, and you're often the aggressive deck, so you care less of your life total.

[Nihil Credo]

Playing Snuff Out in a Goblins deck would be pretty damn funny, if you look at its art and flavour text.

[Volt]

Playing Snuff Out in a Goblins deck would be pretty damn funny, if you look at its art and flavour text.

Snuff Out is a terrific card that doesn't seen enough play.

And, yeah, I think Gobbo is going to make a comeback.

[technogeek5000]

Snuff out sees play in sui decks which are on the rise and its being put into more and more decks. Snuff out seems broken in this deck because you can play lackey and clear a path for it at the same time.

Lorwyn looks promising for gobbos as gobs are the red tribe and I believe I saw a good black lackey target but i cant seem to remember what it was called. Anyone?

[Drossie]

Snuff out sees play in sui decks which are on the rise and its being put into more and more decks. Snuff out seems broken in this deck because you can play lackey and clear a path for it at the same time.

Lorwyn looks promising for gobbos as gobs are the red tribe and I believe I saw a good black lackey target but i cant seem to remember what it was called. Anyone?

this?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attac...5&d=1187737722

[GreenOne]

Snuff out sees play in sui decks which are on the rise and its being put into more and more decks. Snuff out seems broken in this deck because you can play lackey and clear a path for it at the same time.

Sui decks on the rise?? Are you serious? I can't see suicide doing well after the HulkFlash meta.

However, Snuff Out fits the "cheat on mana" flavour of goblins too