Shadowmoor Info

[hi-val]

I'm gonna go on record as saying that I think Beseech will be an Ambition's Cost. Paying BBB for 3 cards and 3 life seems pretty fair (Contracts be damned!) and having to crank six mana and three life for three cards also seems fair.

[Afro]

Well, considering any black deck gets to play Beseech the Queen for 3, I can't picture it being all that powerful.

Necropotence much?

These discussions are dumb. Let us actually wait to see what the card does before we go as far as saying "i think this might be playable even though its an uncommon."

[bigbear102]

Or you can let people speculate, as this is the thread to do it in, and if you don't like it don't read the thread.

I don't think that Beseech the Queen will be Ambition's Cost, I think it will be some kind of draw spell that will change depending on how much mana or colored mana is paid for it.

[hi-val]

Or you can let people speculate, as this is the thread to do it in, and if you don't like it don't read the thread.

I don't think that Beseech the Queen will be Ambition's Cost, I think it will be some kind of draw spell that will change depending on how much mana or colored mana is paid for it.

That's an interesting concept.

I didn't want to derail it into a speculation thread about what cards do : ( Hybrid mana costs like that are really interesting to me since there's a lot of neat stuff that you can do. For example, what would a colorless Healing Salve or Lightning Bolt cost? Should all colors get something like Giant Growth? It'll make for really interesting limited games!

[Pinder]

#2 – The mana symbols on Beseech the Queen are half a 2 Mana and half a Black Mana. Yes, this is a new twist on hybrid. (And in other ways it isn't at all—but more on that during Beseech the Queen Week.) No, I'm not going to tell you how it works (although common sense should help). How does one figure out the converted mana cost of it and other cards like it (yes, there's more)? Don't worry, it's written on the card.

...Okay, okay, it's six. You can stop the email bombing now.

Awww. That means it sucks with Bob and Counterbalance.

[scrumdogg]

Thank gawd, as that stops the aggravating type of speculation, since most of the people throwing in their two cents have no clue how the process works anyway. Guessing what the card will actually do? That's a lot more harmless (and fun, as people get their Sherlock Holmes on...). Was there a Shadowmoor preview of some sort at the Grand Prixs? If so, can someone update those of us with weekend jobs that hate Extended? Thanks.

[Sek'Kuar]

I also found it interesting that Mark Rosewater also stated that the set was roughly 7/15 hybrid (all allied colors). Thats a lot of hybrid.

[Corg]

*Ahem*

Internet, I was wrong about the CMC of Beseech the Queen. Let us never speak of it again.

Now, let us all misbuild our manabases!

(Also, Shards of Alara?)

[Wallace]

Some more card art from magictutor.com

Could that be a Contraption?

[Jaynel]

It looks more like a construct, similar to one seen in the third batch of images (on page 1).

[Sanguine Voyeur]

Could that be a Contraption?

Although it's possible, it's unlikely. Shadowmoor will be hybrid based, and contains mostly coloured cards. This means that there would be little room for an ability that artifact heavy. I assume that contraptions will be in a steam punk set, if they ever appear.

[godryk]

I've seen this in some spanish forums and didn't seen it here. Anyway it's just a crap common.

[Elficidium]

I've seen this in some spanish forums and didn't seen it here. Anyway it's just a crap common.

I call Fake.
It's tribal and is of a creature type not yet seen in the set. It would have to be at least Elemental Spirit. No mention of it on Salvation also.

[Zach Tartell]

Aydunno, but there are some amazing "Español" Source cards there, if you care to break out your dictionary.

[Belgareth]

Actually that card was shown as fake a while back on MTGS , it's not even a good fake.

[Barook]

This forest of mine glows with an awesome powers!

[Wallace]

I call Fake.
It's tribal and is of a creature type not yet seen in the set. It would have to be at least Elemental Spirit. No mention of it on Salvation also.

Yeah, this was confirmed a fake a while back. I believe that Nightmare even deleted a post containing this card because it was fake.

[godryk]

Ok, I also thought it was a fake, just wanted to show and confirm.

[Sanguine Voyeur]

Cool. That was my favorite one in the cycle.

[Bryant Cook]

I hope that Beseech the Queen, is a dumb card for black. I'd love another broken card for TES. Not another card that didn't make the cut, coughSlithermusecough...