why did you have 22 goblins? could you not make black mana for some reason? goblins are bad against landstill...they run 2-3 ee and 2-3 wraths.
I can't recall, but I think it was my only option, I couldn't get that BB for Tendrils.Originally Posted by lebron jim
Has any body tried Spiraling Embers in the SB? It's a rough kill condition off of Ad Nauseam and either acts as removal vs hate bears (maybe Tarmogoyf) or damage to the dome in a pinch. It seems really narrow, but I thought it'd be interesting food for thought, especially if it can bypass the need to remove Meddling Mage on Tendrils of Agony or black mana post Ad Nauseam.
3R mana cost ruins the card.
Wait why?
Tendrils is 2BB? Unless I've been playing the wrong card...
Embers doesn't kill people.
Tendrils Does.
Very true.
Bryant whatchu think of Piceli's list?
Ok, its turn 1
You have ponder, brainstorm, probably a land, and other randoms, but not enough to combo out.
What is the right play? Ponder first or Brainstorm?
Depends on the other randoms...
I knew I was going to get that reply
then why ask?I knew I was going to get that reply
in all seriousness. if i need 2+ more cards to go off i would storm then ponder so that i could shuffle away crap. but if all you need is like a single accelerant, id go for ponder.
imo tho,most situations, i would storm first so i can shuffle
How so? It seems advantageous to be able to resolve the kill off of red mana instead of black mana after the Ad Nauseam chain and/or bypass the need to remove Meddling Mage, altho' if you have 20 cards in hand it may very well be a moot point.
Granted, it's probably just another card to add to the not good enough list, but nothing has really been said about it yet. I figured it was potentially better than Grape Shot, but Grape Shot is pretty bad regardless.
Well guys,the only way to exploit that 3R card is to put it maindeck in g2,and to cast it after an AdNauseam. Which makes it bad, because it'll be a really shit every time you'll draw it except for the kill application. Why did i say Maindeck?
Because in certain situations with Tendrils not usable, you'll have to go
accel-->Wish-->break LED(s)-->DISCARD HAND-->that thing: "deal 0 damage to your oppo".
Fail.
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No, because if you have LED then you'd never wish for Spiraling Embers over Tendrils of Agony, Spiraling Embers lets you 1R + 3R off of Rite of Flame(s) - and with 20+ cards seen, the odds of hitting 2+ Rite of Flames are really high. Vs Meddling Mage, it basically lets you redirect its target from Tendrils of Agony to Lion's Eye Diamond.
It's probably too situational, I just thought it should be included for posterity's sake.
You won't always get several rite of flames, and as you said, if you have mana, you'd go for Tendrils, which is way better. Still, netting 18-20 cards with AdN is higly improbable, usually it's 10-15 starting from an avg of 15-16-17 life (assuming we have received some beats and some dmg from Brasses). At this point it's really better to grapeshot..and if it's better grapeshot, well...
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I'm really looking for something to replace maybe 2-3 of the ponder/brainstorms. It usually seems like I have too many in my opening hands or after AdN.
Am I being silly?
Why does it matter? He's playing an almost identical list.
12th land - I've never felt I need it.
Repeal vs Cov = I like them both, but Gaddeck Teeg is everywhere in my Metagame.
Sideboard- a tiny bit different. Deathmark. Woooo.
Spiraling embers - it can't kill Gaddeck Teeg, I don't really care.
Wooo. Grapeshot. If your meta really has lots of Gaddock Teeg, then perhaps Deathmark could be a more interesting choice, since it kills that fucking ol' scrooge more cheaply. How much is Grapeshot relevant as an alt win-con after Tendrils against Mages or Halos played by Landstill? To kill Teeg w/ Grapeshot and go off the same turn (to avoid getting another Teeg/Canonist on da face) you must have a god hand with shittons of mana to go Wish--> Grapeshot AND another way to go on storming to fnish into ToA.
But,hey, after all you're named Bryant Cook, so you won't follow a word of what i say. I don't even try.
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I've won matches due to grapeshot. I've never heard of anyone winning a match due to deathmark.
At least you realize the truth. :)But,hey, after all you're named Bryant Cook, so you won't follow a word of what i say. I don't even try.
I second the winning matches due to Grapeshot, mothalicka!
Who cares if she was dead, we did her anyway...
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