[Deck] TES - The EPIC Storm

[Piceli89]

But Deathmark can destroy a green creature, too.
So it may save us all from losing to Forests.

[Jim Higginbottom]

I've won matches because of both of them...my sb is tendrils, grapeshot, empty the warrens, duress, wipe away, 2x pyroblast, igg, deathmark, krosan grip, infernal tutor, diminishing returns, hurkyl's recall, and 2x shattering spree.

[Bryant Cook]

But Deathmark can destroy a green creature, too.
So it may save us all from losing to Forests.

I'd cut ETW before I cut grapeshot. I never use that POS.

[Jeff Kruchkow]

I'd cut ETW before I cut grapeshot. I never use that POS.

Word. I cant remember the last time I actually had to turn dudes sideways to win.

Also, how are we all feeling about the zoo matchup?
I know everyone is like, OMG its combo we beat aggro period. Not true. a 3/3 turn one followed but bolts and shit quickly makes AdN not so good and assembling an IGG loog is both dangerous and time consuming. I keep feeling like I want just a wee bit more accel in the deck. Anyone else experiencing this?

[Bryant Cook]

Word. I cant remember the last time I actually had to turn dudes sideways to win.

Also, how are we all feeling about the zoo matchup?
I know everyone is like, OMG its combo we beat aggro period. Not true. a 3/3 turn one followed but bolts and shit quickly makes AdN not so good and assembling an IGG loog is both dangerous and time consuming. I keep feeling like I want just a wee bit more accel in the deck. Anyone else experiencing this?

I've lost one match to Zoo out of several. He was playing MD Teegs and sideboard chants. Without these I don't see any problems.

[GreenOne]

OMG its combo we beat aggro period.

[keys]

With the right Sideboard and some lucky draws, Zoo can be just as if not more formidable than a lot of blue-based aggro/control. Duress and Chant do nothing to stop the hate bears, and while it's not particularly hard to tutor up a death mark or chain of vapor, you're on a clock and that extra turn might cost you the game.

[lorddotm]

Zoo is not that hard to beat. They watch you jack off.

[keys]

In testing, I beat you almost every game a Teeg/Canonist hit the table, which was like 1/3 of the games when playing 4 total.

[lorddotm]

Ya well, I had just picked up the deck, and I wasn't running Deathmark/bounce/stuff like that.

But Zoo isn't a bye, but it shouldn't be too difficult, I find myself going for Iggy more often than AdN

[fearphage]

I'd cut ETW before I cut grapeshot. I never use that POS.

Is this a joke or are you the luckiest man in the universe? Being normal, I hit situations where I can produce tons of red mana and little/no black on rare occassions. Also if I can't kill in one turn, I'll go for tokens.

I find myself going for Iggy more often than AdN

I agree. It's cheaper and there's no gambling involved. Ad Nauseam is just my oh shit! button.

[Raindown]

I find myself going for Iggy more often than AdN

Does that mean you only run one Ad N over 2 copies?

[lorddotm]

Does that mean you only run one Ad N over 2 copies?

I run 1 AdN and 1 Iggy.

[johanessen]

I'm playing Ghastly Demise over deathmark slot for eot kill and have mana to combo

[TeKo]

So you play Cunning Wish instead of Burning? ...

[Bryant Cook]

Is this a joke or are you the luckiest man in the universe? Being normal, I hit situations where I can produce tons of red mana and little/no black on rare occassions. Also if I can't kill in one turn, I'll go for tokens.

I agree. It's cheaper and there's no gambling involved. Ad Nauseam is just my oh shit! button.

No? ETW is answered too easily, I'd rather wait until I can Tendrils.

I'm playing Ghastly Demise over deathmark slot for eot kill and have mana to combo

Why?! Why not just run Chain of Vapor? It deals with more cards.

[johanessen]

Well I run one copy of Chain of Vapor and one of Ghastly Demise for Gaddok and Meddling, double Meddling, etc. Also it can be proactive. Play Gaddok? eot kill, no matter if I combo next turn or into two, and maybe i need mana to sculpt hand. Note it's is a fishy deck playing Vial CoV doesn't work, coz they can play again the hatebear. Ghastly Demise is also great against merfolk to kill the cursecancer

[lorddotm]

No? ETW is answered too easily, I'd rather wait until I can Tendrils.

So youre saying winning in two turns from when u go off is worse than winning in some number of turns that you don't know?

[Bryant Cook]

So youre saying winning in two turns from when u go off is worse than winning in some number of turns that you don't know?

More than likely you only need 1, maybe 2 mana more to go off without Warrens so you can Returns/ or Infernal -> Nauseam. So yes, I'll wait for a sure thing rather than a bunch of vunerable 1/1's. ETW is only good in my eyes on turn one.

[BreathWeapon]

There's no point in arguing ETW vs Grape Shot, since neither card serves as a replacement for the other. ETW is either a good/bad card based on the opponent's MD/SBing tendencies, or it's your only out based on mana, storm or turn restrictions etc. Even if you never cast the card, it's doing it's job, because your opponent always has to take it into consideration - sometimes the threat of a card is more effective than the application.