I use ETW when I can't get the storm count high enough to win with tendrils.
Against aggro, it can be impossible to get enough storm without AdN which will end up with u getting some bolts to your face and die.Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
Against aggro you should be setting up IGG.
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Been there, tried that, still casting Doomsday.
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What Emildn said, you shouldn't be using Ad Nauseam. Try Returns or Igg.
All I was saying if I had to cut a SB slot it'd be IGG before Grapeshot. I'm aware that people are still forced to fear ETW.
With returns, is it like IGG, float as much mana as possible and hope for a good draw?
Pretty much.
Has anybody tested Doomsday?? Thoughts? Experiences??
I want to know as well, perhaps there is something we can take away from other Storm decks like ANT
No because nobody runs Sensei's Diving Top in TES.
Why not run Top? It's also awesome with Mystical Tutor.
Top doesn't like City of Brass and Gemstone Mine very much..
On another note, I know this is the 100th time i ask it, but has anyone pondered cutting the 4th mox? It's always a terrible topdeck and having 2 is wasting 2 cards in hand. Ok, they're necessary for AdN, but is the full-set really neessary? 4 would be fine if the deck had fetches to benefit cheap shuffle effects after brainstorm, but without them, brainstorming and putting back 2 moxes won't gtfo them. Perhaps it could be replaced by another mana accel.. and the obvious choice is Cabal Ritual. You can say that it's a shitty accel and goes under Spell snare and ecc ecc., but it's better than drawing 2 moxes, this is for sure. Plus, having cut 1 Ad Nauseam, we can flip for a greater qty of cards when going off via AdN, so that would ensure us enough possibilities to find a Mox or a Petal if we are searching for free mana.
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Personally I would never cut the 4th Mox. A lot of the time when I'm going off, I AdN with 0 mana floating, and will need both black and red to go off, this is where I need to get two Moxes/Petals off of AdN, anything less than that, and I will fizzle.
While yes, double Mox hands really do suck, they are worth is when you don't lose.
A number of people 3xChrome Mox, the problem tho' is initial mana sources are a precious commodity in TES, so you'd have to look into SSG etc. and not a shitty Cabal Ritual.
The main issue with Spirit Guides is their awesome 3 converted mana costs off of AdN.
In my opinion, although its a pain in the ass sometimes, four Chrome Mox is a must.
(How many of you are getting foil Mysticals and Petals, I already have 4 Petals, and two Mysticals)
I'm really conflicted over SSG, while it's an initial mana source, a Daze counter and increases the fundamental turn, there's no arguing 3 damage off of Ad Nauseam sucks. I think if you cut the second Ad Nauseam and the Ill Gotten Gains, the number of times you'll die to SSG is worth the number of times you'll win from SSG increasing your goldfish, countering Daze or giving you a red mana off of Diminishing Returns for the Lion's Eye Diamond, Rite of Flame into Burning Wish chains (which is where it's awesome).The main issue with Spirit Guides is their awesome 3 converted mana costs off of AdN.
In my opinion, although its a pain in the ass sometimes, four Chrome Mox is a must.
(How many of you are getting foil Mysticals and Petals, I already have 4 Petals, and two Mysticals
I thought it as a wish alternative...
I use to use it, the problem tho' is that it's really, really hard to set up and more often than not you're better off wishing/cantripping for something else than you are DDAYing.
Some talk about Doomsday and Burning Wish makes me think about NLS. A storm combo deck emidln posted over on the stormboards. It functions similar to TES and runs: Doomsday (4 Top in the main), ITutor, BWish, and AdN. You guys should check it out, the deck is crazy explosive, if you don't have access to the site I can post the last list if anyone is interested. Given, this is a TES thread but ... it does play Burning Wish!
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IGG too, obviously.
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I helped create it. However, I don't think it's appropriate for this thread.
Doomsday isn't worth playing without top. I was trying to use it as a wish target, but having to hold Ponders/Brainstorms was weak.
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