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    I consider putting my Mint English Loyal Retainers on ebay. What do you honestly expect them to go for during this hype right now considering the auction at 60$ with 6 days left?
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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian23 View Post
    I consider putting my Mint English Loyal Retainers on ebay. What do you honestly expect them to go for during this hype right now considering the auction at 60$ with 6 days left?
    There's really no way to tell. This is the first auction I've seen since they became the hot item of the moment. I'd say watch and wait, honestly. I'm guessing it will end in triple digits for sure though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by majikal View Post
    There's really no way to tell. This is the first auction I've seen since they became the hot item of the moment. I'd say watch and wait, honestly. I'm guessing it will end in triple digits for sure though.
    2 are up for buy it nows under 3 digits.

    But they're spelled incorrectly lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Ignition View Post
    2 are up for buy it nows under 3 digits.

    But they're spelled incorrectly lol....

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    My roommate got one at a local card shop today for $40.
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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    You guys are a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Quick, some random claimed that Loyal Retainers is going up! I'd better go buy up every single one I can find. Oh, wow, people are listing them on ebay at high prices. What a surprise!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha Gunslinga View Post
    You guys are a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Quick, some random claimed that Loyal Retainers is going up! I'd better go buy up every single one I can find. Oh, wow, people are listing them on ebay at high prices. What a surprise!"
    Who was surprised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha Gunslinga View Post
    You guys are a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Quick, some random claimed that Loyal Retainers is going up! I'd better go buy up every single one I can find. Oh, wow, people are listing them on ebay at high prices. What a surprise!"
    More and more people will start running this card in their Survival toolboxes with Iona, so eventually it would go up in price anyway as they disappeared off the market (whether it was the hot card in this discussion or not). Maybe not at the rate it's increasing now, but it would happen. The only way to keep the price down on the card is if people only bought it if they were sure they'd use it. Unfortunately, most people are just buying them up for the intention of reselling them when the prices plateau.


    I lost to a survival build with that card in it last week, it wasn't awesome. Not for me anyway. I can definitely see why it's so popular. I couldn't even imagine playing Survival without Retainers + Iona in it now. It's just too good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Ignition View Post
    2 are up for buy it nows under 3 digits.

    But they're spelled incorrectly lol....
    Those are Chinese though. Aren't they more common than the English ones? Still it's like $90 with $4 shipping! That guys seems to sell a lot of them too.

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    I'm really glad I picked up my playset some time ago at +/- $15 pop for I Will Survive. Go go, goofy decks
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    I guess the question now is "Are they really that good in that Survival deck?". I used them in "I will Survive" also and had a Angel Blink deck of my own build that did quite well, but Iona wasn't out yet. It's a good trick to be sure, but is it worth that tag? I expect it to settle around $60 in the end. He's worth that.

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    There is now a Loyal Retainers Chinese version on ebay with buy it now set at $150.00. Does anyone think that it will sell? I know that one auction does not dictate the average going rate but I am curious if it will sell. I personally think that the price is about 40.00 high but I guess we'll see.

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    $150 for a Loyal Retainers is insane. I can see the card being expensive as discussed, but if anyone buys one for $150 they have more money than sense.
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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Damaged View Post
    $150 for a Loyal Retainers is insane. I can see the card being expensive as discussed, but if anyone buys one for $150 they have more money than sense.
    That's the benefit of living in a capitalistic system. You do have a lot of idiots who never had to work for their money so they will just spend it on everything they want no matter the price. Who cares if Retainers shoul only be double digits if there are people out there who spend double, triple or four digit amounts of money alike?
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    Not arguing that point at all. Some people just have the money burning a hole in their pockets. Wish it was me sometimes. ;)
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    Oh yeah, tip of the day. Go out and buy those older cards people are ignoring right now. I tend to make a killing while people pay attention to "OMG look at this new card!" effects that Worldwake is producing. I do this every time. I'll post the deals I got later.

    A couple of them are pretty silly so far. I picked up 4 Aether Flashes for 1 cent as an example. Free Shipping, heh that's funny. Good timing tard. It may not be a card used much at all or ever again, but I will always have a playset for fun decks, EDH, and possibly if someone finds a use again for a single penny. Not bad. As an added bonus I get to laugh at the poor sap who didn't realize he could actually lose money by doing free shipping on a hugely low demand card.

    Be a good time to grab things like Blaze of Glory, Abeyance, Portal shit, and anything random right now. Always wanted some of those Goblins from Starter that blow up lands, nows the time.

    And if you didn't know, you never, ever, ever buy Pre-orders as the cards are coming out. You will get ass-raped unless you happen to see a use no one else does. Then you jump on it quick before someone spills the beans on a forum. Notice that Amulet is already going for over $5 a shot? That's because someone mentioned the trick with having two in play and playing a CIBT land getting 2 mana out of it. That's not the greatest thing ever, but you can see how it happens.

    Wait 2 weeks after the release and then cash in on the new rares. It gets way cheaper later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahcmai View Post
    Notice that Amulet is already going for over $5 a shot? That's because someone mentioned the trick with having two in play and playing a CIBT land getting 2 mana out of it. That's not the greatest thing ever, but you can see how it happens.

    Wait 2 weeks after the release and then cash in on the new rares. It gets way cheaper later.

    I didn't even realize you could do that with the Amulet. That is pretty fun. I immediately thought about Orb of Dreams though. I always liked that card, a lot, but could never make it remotely useful. Not saying the new Amulet will make it good but it's fun to tinker with.
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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    There's a guy who frequents PTQs in our area who has an entire binder full of Loyal Retainers. He once told me that he set aside several thousand dollars to buy every single copy of it (along with Recruiter, and Seal when they weren't near as expensive) with the intent of creating demand when it actually became good.

    Why anyone would spend triple digits on a terrible fringe uncommon is beyond me. The biggest problem I have with Retainers and Recruiter are that Wizards could potentially print a card or mechanic which could replace the function they're fufilling in their respective decks and dream crush all the idiots who spent half a grand getting their playsets. I cashed out on my Recruiters a while ago, because I honestly believe Wizards will print a card similar to it (maybe 2cc and less, for instance) in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian23 View Post
    That's the benefit of living in a capitalistic system. You do have a lot of idiots who never had to work for their money so they will just spend it on everything they want no matter the price.
    I love all of these angry posts about people who have more money than you. How is someone an idiot because they've got more money? Does wasting more time at your job really make you smarter than them? Are you angry that people can spend more money than you on cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kojiro View Post
    Why anyone would spend triple digits on a terrible fringe uncommon is beyond me. The biggest problem I have with Retainers and Recruiter are that Wizards could potentially print a card or mechanic which could replace the function they're fufilling in their respective decks and dream crush all the idiots who spent half a grand getting their playsets. I cashed out on my Recruiters a while ago, because I honestly believe Wizards will print a card similar to it (maybe 2cc and less, for instance) in the near future.
    Yeah for sure! I see a white/green/blue creature card in the future that costs less than three mana and has a reanimate effect, with a free ability that doesn't have the possibility of being StPed or bolted before it gets used.

    Why is everyone in this thread so angry that people can spend and make money off of buying or selling cards?

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Ignition View Post
    Yeah for sure! I see a white/green/blue creature card in the future that costs less than three mana and has a reanimate effect, with a free ability that doesn't have the possibility of being StPed or bolted before it gets used.
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    Yeah for sure! I see a white/green/blue creature card in the future that costs less than three mana and starts out as a 3/4 and usually grows to 5/6 by the late-game, without making any mana investment or having to build your deck around it.
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    Yeah for sure! I see a white/green/blue creature card in the future that costs less than three mana and stops your opponent from playing mass sweepers, pitch countermagic, AND Storm kill conditions, all the while still beating for two.
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    Yeah for sure! I see a white/green/blue creature card in the future that costs less than three mana and beats as a 3/3, unless one of your other guys wants to borrow a point of P/T. And packs a one-mana Disenchant, you know, just in case the body isn't good enough for two mana. And is a cat.
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