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    Re: [Deck] Lands!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moduloc View Post
    Seems like I heard that Chris Woltereck ran depths/hexmage/volrath's stronghold in his lands build in the last SSG's in Atlanta. Does anyone know his deck list and how he did?
    Somewhere around 6-2-1 if I remember the coverage right. Not top 16, but a solid performance (probably heavily based on playskill)
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    Re: [Deck] Lands!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moduloc View Post
    Seems like I heard that Chris Woltereck ran depths/hexmage/volrath's stronghold in his lands build in the last SSG's in Atlanta. Does anyone know his deck list and how he did?
    My guess would be they changed the old list as such:
    -1 Taiga, -1 Barbarian Ring, -1 Cephalid Coliseum -(? - I thought he took out Mindslaver, but I saw it on the coverage...)
    + Stronghold, hexmage, depths, urborg

    While the Hexmage-Kill seems really clumsy, its advantage over Barbarian Ring/Slaver probably is concerning round time. Barbarian Ringing someone out can take some turns...

    Also, did you guys see the covered match against Merfolk? Where did the Ensnaring Bridge at the end of G2 go? Merfolk bounced it and played Back to Basics. Lands had 3 mana left, but didn't replay Bridge for some reason...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moduloc View Post
    Seems like I heard that Chris Woltereck ran depths/hexmage/volrath's stronghold in his lands build in the last SSG's in Atlanta. Does anyone know his deck list and how he did?
    I checked on deckcheck but the list doesnt have DD

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    Re: [Deck] Lands!

    Quote Originally Posted by otherside View Post
    I checked on deckcheck but the list doesnt have DD
    Next time check the video coverage.

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    Re: [Deck] Lands!

    The list on deckcheck is accurate, but its the winning list from Indy, not the recent one from Atlanta...

    That said, what are the thoughts on Hexmage-Dark Depths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbitar View Post
    The list on deckcheck is accurate, but its the winning list from Indy, not the recent one from Atlanta...

    That said, what are the thoughts on Hexmage-Dark Depths?
    Besides forcing them to keep Swords in to keep them honest, I don't see the point. Mindslaver is a one-card combo that wins the game, while Hex-Depths takes 3*.

    (I'm talking about slots in the deck, not cards in play. Hex-Depths runs Volrath's Stronghold, Hexmage and DD. Mindslaver piggy-backs off of Academy Ruins, which is already really good in the deck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbitar View Post
    The list on deckcheck is accurate, but its the winning list from Indy, not the recent one from Atlanta...

    That said, what are the thoughts on Hexmage-Dark Depths?
    Besides forcing them to keep Swords in to keep them honest, I don't see the point. Mindslaver is a one-card combo that wins the game, while Hex-Depths takes 3*.

    (I'm talking about slots in the deck, not cards in play. Hex-Depths runs Volrath's Stronghold, Hexmage and DD. Mindslaver piggy-backs off of Academy Ruins, which is already really good in the deck.
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    Re: [Deck] Lands!

    I used to run Mindslaver but recently dropped it in favor of Smokestack. I started out with it in the board but it's just such a strong card in this deck it's not even funny. Give it a try yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian23 View Post
    I used to run Mindslaver but recently dropped it in favor of Smokestack. I started out with it in the board but it's just such a strong card in this deck it's not even funny. Give it a try yourself.
    I've been running Smokestack in the board, but it just seems like an incredibly difficult card to get value out of a lot of times. Can you try and explain strategy / situations where you want it? (Also, what your ramping strategy typically is)
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    Stephen Menendian wrote an article this week on lands (premium) http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/m...in_Legacy.html

    The maindeck he gives is basically:
    -1 Barbarian Ring
    -1 Tormod's Crypt
    +1 Ensnaring Bridge
    +1 Bojuka Bog
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    Re: [Deck] Lands!

    What else did he say?

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    I don't really want to spoil the article, but the discussion thread here is worth a read http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ead.php?17598-[Premium-Article]-Im-a-Landlubber-The-Land-Deck-in-Legacy

    He discusses (with polls) what plays to make in certain situations. Also, the board has some changes in it.
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    Mike, Smokestack is just such a house in the CounterTop/Bant match-up. Smokestack alone won me two matches against CT at Eli's. As long as you're up on material, you just need to make sure they get to the point where they sacrifice their Counterbalance (allowing you to Loam freely). After that it's smooth sailing. Symmetrical effects work wonders when you control more permanents than the opponent... which you should, because you're playing lands :P

    BTW, your nearly pimped-out lands deck just made me want to just finish mine even more. Ihatechu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOGITwill View Post
    BTW, your nearly pimped-out lands deck just made me want to just finish mine even more. Ihatechu.
    The man still isn't satisfied with it. We are trying to convince him not to, but beta lands are next, as is a Summer 4th basic? Yeah

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    That'll only cost him infinite monies.
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    Somebody last page was talking about Intuition piles for Trap and Bog. Since they both target you, then you could use Ivory Mask, the cleric that gives you Shroud, or Runed Halo. Halo is also kind of an out vs. Tendrils and Progenitus
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOGITwill View Post
    That'll only cost him infinite monies.


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    Re: [Deck] 43 Lands

    What do you guys think of the inclusion of Entomb? It has some obvious advantages and helps tutor for most of the deck. It is really nice to get another Life from the Loam after some one just emptied your Graveyard.

    It was discussed on SCG today by Anwar Ahmad, Practical Legacy, New Roles for Powerful Cards

    Update (Just brainstormed this):
    Spells(23)
    4 Intuition
    4 Life from the Loam
    4 Exploration
    4 Manabonds
    4 Mox Diamond
    3 Entomb

    Lands(37)
    4 Maze of Ith
    4 Mishra's Factory
    4 Rishadan Port
    4 Wasteland
    2 Tropical Island
    3 Tranquil Thicket
    3 Tolaria West
    1 Glacial Chasm
    1 Cephalid Coliseum
    1 Tabernacle of the Pendrel Vale
    1 Underground Sea
    1 Bayou
    1 Forest
    1 Academy Ruins
    1 Windswept Heath
    1 Wooded Foothills
    1 Misty Rainforest
    1 Verdant Catacombs
    1 Gargoyle Castle
    1 Ghost Quarter

    SB:
    4 Chalice of the Void
    1 Karakas
    1 Zuran Orb
    1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truths (to board in against GY hate, entomb it in response to them trying to remove your GY)
    2 Tormods Crypt
    1 Ensnaring Bridge
    3 Extirpate
    1 Engineered Explosives
    1 Smokestack

    What do you guys think of this list?
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    Re: [Deck] 43 Lands

    Quote Originally Posted by malden View Post
    1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truths (to board in against GY hate, entomb it in response to them trying to remove your GY)
    I see what you're trying to do, but wouldn't dredging into Kozilek be like GY-hating yourself anyway?
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    Is there any particular reason this deck uses a lot of "chaff" utility lands instead of just 4xing Tabernacle, considering how important Tabernacle is in this deck? It's about the only land I tutor for, besides Glacial Chasm and Barbarian Ring to end the game.
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