View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meekrab View Post
    The difference though, is that Ad Nauseam and Doomsday are 1 or 2-ofs in almost every build. Desire would be played as a 4-of. And the deck is lots easier to play than TES or AnT ever could be.
    Seriously, Desire is so much more resilient it isn't even fun. If anything i'd unban Time Spiral before it.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I just Lol'd at the thread looking at the B/R poll. Where's Survival of the Fittest??? Goes so much to show that the card was just fine for the longest time, until Vengevines showed up.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Check the date on the first post and you'll see why it's not on there.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by dahcmai View Post
    Check the date on the first post and you'll see why it's not on there.
    That basically was what he was saying. That it has always been fine, and then Vengevine showed up. But anyway, I've really had enough of this discussion. It almost seems like it's the only thing that happens in Magic right now. I hope they'll ban neither of them and I actually think they won't.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Yeah that's what I meant. Since the opening post is old, Survival was not on the list aka it was not a problem until VV came in. Will it be a problem after? That's for the metagame to tell. And I know how to combat Vengevival, it takes a different approach, which I believe not a lot of people are willing to learn and shift their mentality and strategies to accomodate the change.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I have this wierd feeling that they are going to unban mana vault. Just wanted to say it now so that if it happens then I can look good.

    On survival. I am sick of hearing everyones opinion on the topic. I understand the issue. I am now going to ignore any thread on the topic. I will see what wizards thinks and proceed from there. The survival topic has gotten to be out of hand. This is worse than tier arguements.

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    I don't think they will unban mana vault but who knows? :)

    On survi: QFT! I wish the B/R announcements were tomorrow so we could just all drop the subject and move on. But I'll guess we'll just have to go through another month of speculations. :P

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    After unbanning Grim Monolith Vault would be the next step...

    i dont think they will do since it is too undercosted...but if they do, I will love it.

    Actually I think since some month they maybe unbann Mana Drain but then... I think they will simply not do because the card is to rare/expensive.

    Shaby reason I know but Imagine where the Price would be if its unbanned.

    Some Friends of mine think FR will be unbanned, I hope that will not happen because I dont want to see another strom deck back in the meta..though that maybe would also happen if Mana Drain gets unbanned.

    I am unsure if I think Sur should be banned, for me following the line that wizards also has...which reads...combo should not be a format defining top deck, something out of Ichorid needs to be banned, because here where I play its clearly dominating combo. I am not sure what to ban from it I have to admit, but lets hope Wizards does something about it.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I vote that Wizards unbans Worldgorger Dragon so all of the various cards I own that are components to the deck go up in price.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valrina View Post
    I am unsure if I think Sur should be banned, for me following the line that wizards also has...which reads...combo should not be a format defining top deck, something out of Ichorid needs to be banned, because here where I play its clearly dominating combo. I am not sure what to ban from it I have to admit, but lets hope Wizards does something about it.
    I mean no offense in this, but then your meta needs to really adapt. Dredge is a strong deck and as much as Frogboy might disagree with me, I still feel it's very fragile and doesn't have the staying power people hope for. It doesn't put up good results at large scale tournaments do to it's own inconsistencies (bad dredges anyone? I know they've happened to me) as well as the fact that hate for it is everyone since a good portion of the vengevine hate doubles as Dredge hate. Nothing in it needs to be banned.

    I'll make a conjecture that your meta is still evolving? I have no idea what the Belgian, or your local meta, is like... but the only time I remember dredge being a defining force in my or most metas was during development when people were just giong for the cheapest deck they could get that has the most bang for the buck. Since then, however, it's really been more of a surprise deck... go weeks or months at a time without seeing it and then when everyone starts relaxing, break it out and vomit zombies onto people.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    When is the next banning update going to take place? What time do they post it? Also where will it first be posted at?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by codegeass View Post
    When is the next banning update going to take place? What time do they post it? Also where will it first be posted at?
    December 20th on DailyMTG.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by luma View Post
    December 20th on DailyMTG.
    I thought it was going to be on dec 1st that's what they said on mtgsalvation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    We keep talking about SotF getting in the ban list, what about cards that could get unbanned?

    Any speculations/discussions?
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by codegeass View Post
    I thought it was going to be on dec 1st that's what they said on mtgsalvation.
    No, Evan Erwin said it was on the 1st of december.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Volrath View Post
    No, Evan Erwin said it was on the 1st of december.

    Also, Evan is a dumbass, with all the Legacy know-how of a feeble-minded child with a penchant for blow dryers, water and bathtubs.
    Ya your right i just called WOTC they told me the next banning would be dec 20th. Also I asked them what his thought were on banning SOTF. He said he can not comment on it but he did say he think's it is a good card. did anyone get any inside from that comment?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by codegeass View Post
    Ya your right i just called WOTC they told me the next banning would be dec 20th. Also I asked them what his thought were on banning SOTF. He said he can not comment on it but he did say he think's it is a good card. did anyone get any inside from that comment?
    I get it. They're testing cards in MTGO again and they think it is a good card.

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    Again someone is saying the banning and unbaning update is taking place on dec 1st on mtgsalvation. Why is that when i called WOTC and they told me that it is not until dec 20th? Dose mtgsalvation get the update sooner then everyone else, or what and if so where can we find the update?

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    It used to be that updates happened on the first. Not everyone got the memo that it isn't like that anymore.

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