They're being played in the latest Tier 1 Standard decks. They'll drop when they are no longer favored.Originally Posted by markbris
I've been tracking these actually. Prices on a lot of Vintage cards have been falling slowly but steadily all year. Workshops can be had for under $1000 a playset now (crazy!). I also saw a NM Library of Alexandria go for $100 recently.
It's possible that all the hype from Legacy has caused people to liquidate their Vintage stash for Legacy staples, since they're easier to move and trade for profit.
It's harder and harder to find a place to play Vintage. Explains a lot. EDH took the spot of a lot of people's hearts due to the fact you can still play the goodies like Demonic.
I know a ton of people who complain of having no place to play Vintage, or too few people to play Vintage. I think that's the problem and causing the decrease. One of the last non-proxy Vintage players in the area recently cashed out of Vintage (sold in his Power) for Legacy staples, since we have a somewhat dedicated (10-15 player) community for Legacy, and probably 2-3 non-proxy vintage players in a town of almost 2 million people. Very depressing, to say the least.
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That said, if anyone reading this thread has Bazaars that they want to trade in for seas, trops, jaces, and volcs, PM me.
At those prices, I would consider getting a playset of moxen. heck, even 150 euros for a set of drains isn't bad; then again, who the heck are you going to play vintage with anyway?
@matt: Why bother even owning expensive vintage cards? It's not like you need them. Just sharpie a basic land and done.
I was at Lucca Comix and did not see moxen at 80
If I had I would have some P9 home now..
Well, really if I find moxen at 100-150 I'll buy them for sure!
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No one plays Vintage anymore really and whens the last time someone actually needed a Mox to play Vintage? There is like one sanctioned event a year and everything else is 10 or more proxies. Not to mention we are in a worldwide recession so everyone who is hurting for cash with a Mox they haven't touched in 4 years is liquidating that shit. Never thought I'd see a Tabernacle be worth a Mox but we are almost there.
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my local store owner saw all this and reported to us customers.I was at Lucca Comix and did not see moxen at 80€
If I had I would have some P9 home now..
Well, really if I find moxen at 100-150€ I'll buy them for sure!
I also tried to sell a set of Risucchia potere (italian drains) on ebay.com and they hardly reached 145 euros for the playset, while their consolidated price in Italy should be 50-55 euros each. Selling them at 145 means 35 eur/ Drains, wich is almost the same price people start asking for their force of wills (here in Italy 28-30 eur each).....
EDIT: just thinking that 35 fucking euros for a force of will is INSANE. I'm glad i have my set bought when they were 20 eur each.
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Is there any way to short stock in Survival of the Fittest? I'm pretty sure this means it's getting the axe in less than a month.
Just do it like you would short shares, if you're able to find people willing to borrow you their Survivals.
If any player is going to come up with a strategy to beat the Survival of the Fittest decks that have been dominating the format then the Team Competition may be the last chance that they get to do so before it is defeated through legislation.
this made me laugh. You want to beat surv? just read the source (if you can't come up with nothing self made and new) and build something wich can do this. Meta adapts---> Surv power is strongly decreased. But since nobody seem interested into adapting, oh well, i'll start stockpiling survs as well...
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WWK cards have been OOP for a while now and all the prices for the relevant playables have been increasing as a result. It's worse on MODO where cards like Kalastria Highborn hit 9.
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Yeah, I tried to buy a pack of WWK the other day at my local card store and they were sold out! Anyone noticed that CFB is selling Jace for $100? I was able to pick one up for $70 w/ free shipping on Ebay buy-it-now the other week, but even since then the prices have gone up. I really only want two copies of the card for Type 1 and Legacy decks so I'll wait until it rotates before I pick up another copy, although I doubt it will drop substantially. Anyone have a guess as to what price Jace will settle at after it rotates from Standard?
Jace, TMS is a card widely played in all formats, and now legacy is growing everywhere in the world, with more and more players every year. So i think that, after rotating out, prices will fall but not that much. I'd say it will stabilize at something like 60 USD.
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Are you trying to argue that Survival's value won't decrease due to a banning or that you don't think it should get banned? If it's the former, I don't understand your logic, and if it's the latter, this isn't the thread for that.
No, I'm just saying that:
a) Wizards says that Survival is broken, so they stated: if someone can beat it in the very near future, we're not going to ban it. (please note that I'm not giving any opinion on wether it should be banned or not. I recognize this is not the correct thread);
b) Beating survival is all about adapting to the metagame and to Survival, hence the suggestion to play decks that do well with this kind of deck;
c) if players decide to play something that does good against UG Surv or WG Surv, then it will not be banned. In case they do'nt, it will be banned, and I might buy some copies at cheap price because I like the card (and never had chance to buy a set while it was legal) and in the future it might get unbanned.
As you know, prices of a certain good get higher when there is demand for that good. If survival gets the banhammer, there will not be any demand (or at least demand will fall sensibly), and price will fall as well ; and this could be my chance to buy set/sets while it stays banned. Then, if in (let's say) 2014 Wiz unbans it, i'll be ready with my sets.
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Wizards did not say that. BDM said that, and though he writes on wizards.com, it's only BDM's opinion.
It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.
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Ok, then replace any istance of Wizards in BDM and the reasoning works as well.
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Well, I decided to dump my power today so I'll let you know how that goes. It's a beta set so it's a little off from what you would see on Unlimited, but it should be a good indicator. I've been having a hell of a time trying to unload a bunch of beta and alpha stuff lately. Sets aren't selling worth a crap either.
It seems people are only interested in the same old stuff. Whatever is in the newest hot standard deck from CF and whatever is in the latest SCG winners legacy deck. Very annoying to not have older collectors or tabletop players much anymore.
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