What will happen? -- Mtgthesource crew's ability to predict the future

[alphacat]

This will set a dangerous precedent if it's true.

June 2011, Counterbalance and Sensei's Top banned, for being in Top 8.
September 2011, Lion's Eye Diamond banned for being colorless.
December 2011, Wild Nacatl banned for being too damn aggressive.
March 2012, Aether Vial banned for cheating at Magic.
June 2012, Brainstorm banned for drawing more than 1 card per turn.
September 2012, Ponder restricted for being the same mana cost as Brainstorm and looking at 3 cards.
December 20th, 2012 - End of the world.

You laugh now...

Like the good old saying, Wizards will ban everything until Rebel is good, then they'll ban Lin Sivvi.

[SlopeeJ]

or they could just ban the broken stuff, like cheap tutors that let you tutor over and over again for your win conditions

[alphacat]

or they could just ban the broken stuff, like cheap tutors that let you tutor over and over again for your win conditions

Right, because Bant and Elf Survival are oh so broken.

[Gui]

Survival might just be the pic because it's the hot topic. Right? Right?

This could be true, although rather unlikely. I'd put the picture of it even if it wasn't the card banned, was it me to take the decision on which pic to use.

[ryO!]

Like the good old saying, Wizards will ban everything until Rebel is good, then they'll ban Lin Sivvi.

sad but true.
Damn that is so nice to get back to a CBtop vs Merfolk vs Zoo meta, i mean change is EVIL and WRONG. That is to say something needed to be done. For the sake of pet decks please ban ban ban ban.
next => LED i mean if VV can kill on turn 4 with Sotf, why on earth LED isn't already banned i mean it can kills on turn 1 in a rather resilient shell ! (add cb&top, infernal tutors, fow, Etutor, BS, Intuition, any non basic land & islands ... well all "broken cards")
The future block after mirrondin² block, which will be called "The Rise of a Mindstabing Thrull Againt Rebel Crustacean & Friends" will lead to a nice aggro meta.
blue : merfolks & Homarids & Lobsters
red : goblins & Dwarfs & Minotaurs
white : Knights & Rebels & Monks
black : Thrulls & Vampires & Rats
green : Elves & Fungus & faeries

i am going to buy myself some box of fallen empire packs for xmas just in case.
Can't wait !

[Cenarius]

I wonder if Survival of the Fittest was on their watchlist already when they banned Mystical Tutor. I remember that one of the reasons for the banning of Mystical Tutor was, that it could enable a combo. I wonder if they thought the same thing about Survival of the Fittest.
I also wonder if the developing team of Rise of Eldrazi knew (or have thought about it in any way) that Vengevine could possibly be dangerous with Survival of the Fittest. Probably they knew Vengevine would be dangerous, because they printed a sem-like Survival of the Fittest in the form of Fauna Shaman. But maybe they didn't think it would be THAT dangerous.

Vengevine and Necrotic Ooze are relatively new to the format of Legacy, but they sure shook up the metagame. Our metagame (Netherlands) is pretty Survival-prove with a lot of combo decks floating around and sideboard cards like Pithing Needle/Krosan Grip, that can easily shut down the deck.

It's sad to say goodbye to Survival of the Fittest, but so be it. Jace, the walletsculptor will only get more expensive...

[death]

I feel like I've stumbled across something very private...

Time to walk away and play it off cool...

Same thoughts, amidst all the chaos in this forum, this made me giggles.

[Lemnear]

This will set a dangerous precedent if it's true.

June 2011, Counterbalance and Sensei's Top banned, for being in Top 8.
September 2011, Lion's Eye Diamond banned for being colorless.
December 2011, Wild Nacatl banned for being too damn aggressive.
March 2012, Aether Vial banned for cheating at Magic.
June 2012, Brainstorm banned for drawing more than 1 card per turn.
September 2012, Ponder restricted for being the same mana cost as Brainstorm and looking at 3 cards.
December 20th, 2012 - End of the world.

You laugh now...

I could swear I said nearly the same in another topic on the board. Follow the timeline without dates:

- Survival gets banned, Meerfolk vs. Countertop again
- Top accused of being a repeatable and legal method of stalling
- Top gets the hammer and Zoo/Tribal vs. Landstill is the new metagame
- TES regains it's power due to the absence of Countertop and beats asses
- Zoo-Player complain that they can't beat TES and refuse to play cannonist or Teeg Maindeck cuz they are so "narrow"
- some idiots claims that TES has 70% against the field (data maybe out of a 30-man local tournament) and ALWAYS kill turn 1-2. They compare the deck to Burning Desire.dec aka Long.dec
- LED and Infernal get banned and Tribal/Zoo domiante with little Landstill trying to catch-up
- Zoo complains about Goblin's/meerfolk's aether vial and the mana-cheating it provides.
- Aether vial gets the hammer and Zoo rules supreme against a meta of 8 swords/ 8 wrath control

[DrJones]

That doesn't happen because Zoo is easy to hate.

Funny enough, Survival gets the axe, it doesn't surprise me. I was waiting for that to happen before start playing again.

The problem card is still Force of Will, which unsurprisingly also was a component in this deck. I actually predicted this would happen when the Mystical Tutor banning happened, and back before when the Flash banning happened. Look in the archives. I'm the singled-out guy that points to the problem but nobody listen to him because they don't like what he says.

[Koby]

I don't appreciate that when a new deck comes around (Entomb reanimator, Tier 1 Survival decks) the DCI is eager to ban archetypal components, but when CBTop and Forcebof Will and Brainstorm start dominating top 8s we have to continue to suffer with it. This policy is both inconsistent and unfair to the people who play the format for more than the 1 month SCG Open comes to town.

I really wish there was a way to get this thru to WotC.

[Purgatory]

I feel like I've stumbled across something very private...

Time to walk away and play it off cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pamgat1Wro

[Solar Ice]

Voted Survival to get the chop. Sadly, I think that is what they will do. If that happens it would be a wrong choice at this point in time, imho. They could have waited 3 more months and then see what happened before taking action. Wrecking an archetype that has been fair for the past 5-6 years, over 1 problematic, recently printed card (whiclh they could ban without any legitimate complaints - again in 3 months time), very sad and more so very unfair. If Survival is indeed banned it is likely to be an irreversable desision. I truly hope that they will wait before pulling the trigger.

One thing that strongly points to a Survival banning is, if true, the pic that someone posted of the B/R announcement with the Survival pic on it. Another is that if they have a meeting on the B/R list weeks before the announcement, then the Worlds legacy results (in Survival's defence) wouild have no bearing on the desision.

[DragoFireheart]

One thing that strongly points to a Survival banning is, if true, the pic that someone posted of the B/R announcement with the Survival pic on it. Another is that if they have a meeting on the B/R list weeks before the announcement, then the Worlds legacy results (in Survival's defence) wouild have no bearing on the desision.

Dude, whomever made that pic is trolling us. I'm still holding onto my survivals.

[Julian23]

Dude, whomever made that pic is trolling us. I'm still holding onto my survivals.

Wizards of the Coast are trolling us?! It's on their server.

[DragoFireheart]

Wizards of the Coast are trolling us?! It's on their server.

Yup.

Did they do some cool pic for mystical tutor? No, not that I can remember at least. The pic means nothing and they know that doing so would get a reaction out of everyone that see's it. They are also aware that everyone is waiting on them to decide the fate of Survival. Hence, the pic.

Don't assume that the mood of the general public is going to decide the fate of SotF. Last time WotC banned something, many people on this site were either indifferent or disagreed with the ban.

[Solar Ice]

Yup.

Did they do some cool pic for mystical tutor? No, not that I can remember at least. The pic means nothing and they know that doing so would get a reaction out of everyone that see's it. They are also aware that everyone is waiting on them to decide the fate of Survival. Hence, the pic.
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I hope you're right, dude. Though I have my doubts.

@ Topic:

Just want to add that I get the feeling that they will unban something as well. I think that Frantic Search is a strong candidate. Land Tax is a ridiculous banning but they would have removed it from the list a long time ago if they wanted to, so it will probably stay on.

So, final prediction:

Survival of the Fittest is banned in Legacy
Frantic Search is no longer banned in Legacy

[DragoFireheart]

I also have the theory that Land Tax staying on the banned list with SDT off it is another way WotC is trolling us.

[Solar Ice]

I also have the theory that Land Tax staying on the banned list with SDT off it is another way WotC is trolling us.

Haha, that could be true, man :P

They love Counterbalance too much to switch the Tax with Top :P (not saying they should do that, though)

[dahcmai]

I can totally understand having Land Tax stay banned while SDT is around. Can you imagine the frustration of playing against a really slow person that is playing Land Tax with a Top? It would be excruciating. They'd top during the upkeep, then tax, then top again afterward all before drawing a card just to give them the best chance of drawing something they needed. "Ugh, go already!" would be the tournament scenes new anthem.

Terrible thing is if Land Tax came off the list, that's exactly what deck I would put it in, one that already has tops in it.

[Captain_Morgan]

I'm guessing Tarmogoyf gets banned, just for the hell of it.

Survival's probably getting the ax too considering someone found a reasonable graphic.