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In all seriousness, this really peaks my interest in playing tempo decks again. Mental Misstep by itself is whatever, but when you're running it alongside Spell Snare, Spell Pierce, Daze, etc... it makes it really hard for the opponent to be able to do much for the entirety of the early game.
Does anyone know where I can pre order some of these at a descent price? All I can find is 3.99
There are many playsets in ebay at $11.99.
It's also scientifically proven that resolving Nicol Bolas during a competitive legacy event causes the caster's penis to grow a good two or three inches.Originally Posted by sdematt
It's not a scan, it's the godbook itself, digital format, last modifyed in January... well...
If you fail to explain the reason behind your choice, technically, it's the wrong choice.
Zerk Thread -- Really, fun deck! ^^
Does the printing of this card mean that they might give us back Mystical Tutor???
I hope so, but I doubt it. This card is annoying as fuck though, it doesn't counter anything amazing, but it counters just enough to justify it. Very annoying...
it counters sooo many amazing cards at turn 1
the one mana discard, vial, goblin lackey, the one mana removals.
this card is straight tempo man. i just have to find room for it.
This is a good card, no doubt, but what do you take out for it if you want to run it MD?
High Tide- I've only ever played against it once, but this deck seems pretty tight. MM might be playable in place of a few Ponders, or Cunning Wish. But the deck might need more dig effects than counters, as evidenced by the sheer lack of counter in this deck to begin with!
Dredge- I don''t see Dredge pulling any discard outlets to make room for MM.
Elves- They need a critical mass of Elves to go off, so room is tight. I don't think MM makes it.
Bant Aggro- MM can be used as the deckbuilder sees fit. It doesn't revolutionize the deck, but can be included to suit the builder's tastes.
Zoo- MM might go into Zoo's MD better than any other non-blue deck. Zoo can easily cut a few pieces of removal and exchange them for MM, as MM is essentially removal on any 1cc permanent.
Merfolk- Merfolk could easily cut Cursecatchers or redundant Lords to make room for MM. I see a deck of 4xMM,Fow,Daze and then 4xVial and a bunch of Merfolk moving through the metagame. The MMs give it great answers against Zoo and Goblins while strengthening its combo MU.
Charbelcher- Nope
TES/ANT - Discard they already run seems better. T1 Thoughtseize seems better G1 than MM. You want to know the coast is clear before you go off, and you can't do that without looking at your opponent's hand! Also, being reactionary, MM doesn't build storm count sometimes, which is a problem. Additionally, if MM seems good for defending TES/ANT against discard, decks that run Brainstorm already have an answer to discard.
Goblins- Like Elves, goblins really needs a deck with a critical capacity of creatures. It's difficult to make room for non-goblin cards. But if room can be made, having protection for Lackey seems incredibly beneficial. Still, this is a situation where you're assuming you'll have Lackey and MM in your opening hand.
Rock- Cut some removal/discard for free conditional counter? Some folks'll try it. Could be decent.
CounterTop- Cut StP, Spell Pierce, really just one piece of removal for another. MM could replace Daze very easily in this build.
Team America- Another build where MM could replace Daze, but it doesn't change the deck in any fundamental way.
OK, after going through these decks I'm beginning to think MM won't redefine the format, but it will see a lot of play as a supplemental piece for interacting at Instant speed. Some decks will drop some Bolts or Swords to make room for MM. I could see a lot of Decks dropping Daze for MM, but I don't see it getting into many MDs that weren't running blue already. I could be completely wrong.
One last point, everyone has pointed out all the things this card can do, but noone mentions what it can't. It can't hit 0, 2, 3, or higher casting cost spells. Is a counterspell this narrow good enough? Playtesting will tell, but it seems to me that most 1cc spells in the game are support spells, not game winners. So MM allows you to swap a support card for a support card, where broader counterspells allow you to interact with game-winning spells.
Certainly though, this card will become famous for punishing weak starting hands.
The big question I have for is new phyrexia is that it now makes not running force of will a serious question. With both Mental Misstep and the new Phyrexian peek that ups the blue count rather high without devoting any slots to actually casting them. After new Phyrexia do blue decks begin with
4 Fow
4 Mental Mistep
4 Phyrexian Peek
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Goyf
Deck Done!
EDIT: I understand This isn't going to happen, but It these new cards make splashing for force of will even easier.
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What's funny is most of the decks you really want it in do not want to give up the room for a four of. Oddly enough, Goblins and Zoo have the most leeway for it. It stinks in blue for the most part. Well, at least none of my blue decks will be getting a set despite what I think of the card. I already deal with Vial, Lacky, Nacatyl, and such just fine so I don't need it there.
I think the only deck I will actually be putting a set into is my Saffi deck and even that's a tight fit as it's not very synergistic with it.
Good card, rough to find room for it. I guess it will end up in decks that really, really don't want to see Vial, Lacky, top, or crap like that. That's the best use, but not many decks have the room for a limited answer to those cards. Reanimator will appreciate the anti-Swords at least.
Either way, I'll still be picking up 4 foils of it for laughs. It's still decent despite how many decks actually do not really want it even though it sounds awesome.
And just for the record, it's an uncommon that people will want even if they have no idea what to add it to. $3-5 and $13-16 for a foil should be about right. Let's see how close I am.
what is phyrexian peek?
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ead.php?20631-[SCD]-Gitaxian-Probe
I can't really say much that hasn't already been said.
I will add my two cents just to give people an idea of what percentage of people feel a certain way about it. I believe this card alone is going to change Magic quite a bit. I think it's pretty silly to think otherwise. I've never pre-ordered a card this fast in my history of playing (since Legends). In fact, the only other card I have ever pre-ordered was Phyrexian Revoker.
I guess Wizards could be trying to do something worthwhile. Which is, to print cards that are useful in eternal and just might give eternal players a reason to open product.
I just can't believe this card is for real. Free hard counter in any deck. Just wow. I agree with Hanni that played alongside other Tempo cards like Spell Snare, Daze, FoW, is going to be ridiculous.
Honestly, I'm excited although I'm afraid how it might hurt some decks that I play (Ichorid).
This card will change the game big time. This is a card you just may have to considering playing around from now on. Include this in the archive when people are whining that a new uncommon is expensive. There's no doubt in my mind that this will eventually be more expensive than top. I would suck it up and get them at $3 before it's too late.
I think it's safe to say this isn't an overreaction. There have been some great replies in this thread. All in all, I think that the printing of this card is going to make the game more enjoyable in the long run as well.
Wizards is sure making some interesting decisions!
I think some decks will really benefit from Mental Misstep and can easily find room for it in their maindeck (for example: some blue decks by cutting Spell Snare if it already was maindecked), while other decks will lose consistency and just play the card to be able to counter an opposing Misstep with the bonus of hitting random 1 cmc stuff.
I don't agree that blue doesn't care about the card. In fact blue decks are one of the few decks that actually have room for it, by cutting a different counter (Snare for instance). 4C Countertop worst nightmares always were Vial and Stifle; it's one of those decks that most likely WILL benefit from MM.
Countertop /Eva Green
OMG, think of the impact it will have on Pitch World!
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's probably delicious.
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Maybe its the card its been waiting for to finally get bumped to tier1
I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
More importantly, this card counters Didgeridoo.
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Isn't it tier 1 already?
It's also scientifically proven that resolving Nicol Bolas during a competitive legacy event causes the caster's penis to grow a good two or three inches.
Speaking of Didgeridoo, y'all might wanna get multiple playsets of those. Apparently one of the Commander Pre-Cons are going to see some broken Minotaurs.
This probably belongs on a new thread
I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
LOOOL, that's gonna be a real misstep in the Minotaur's deck we were planning xDD Always Goblins, Merfolks... What about our dear Minotaurs? Why dont' Wotc like them haha
Aren't the Commander legends going to be unplayable Oversize jank? And we don't know about the rest of the new cards.
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