[Deck] 43 Lands

[Julian23]

Good job, Mike. I feel so proud someone is doing well with my beloved Lands! :-)

[mchainmail]

He top 32'd, taking away $400.

Mana maze was there originally to deal with High tide combo, he was probably too lazy to replace it.

Elf combo too. It wasn't foil though, I shouldn't have played it.

Losses to Burn and Junk, not resolving a Loan in either game.

Drew with Zoo (scoop) and Dredge. Both games I had won on board.

[Tammit67]

I still don't understand why you drew, seeing how everything carried over. Only one other person had close to your amount of points and in the draw bracket.
Congrats!!!

[sdematt]

Even though I said good job at the event, good job on crushing noobs with Lands :)

-Matt

[iostream]

Congratulations on top 32!

Losses to Burn and Junk, not resolving a Loan in either game.

Fear of this situation is one reason why I ran a mixture of Intuition and E Tutor at the GP. I scrubbed out, however, so maybe it wasn't the best idea ever. :/

[soltakar]

Thanks Matt. List is on the mothership. (From the grinder) basically, 3 factories back in. I don't have any thickets, which.I.think is a mistake.

I know you usually don't like factories, what made you play them now? What would you replace for thickets?

Any other changes that you would have made looking back at the GP?

[jjflipped]

@mchainmail Can you post the list here, as the list on the mother ship has no tabernacle and is 60 cards.

[mchainmail]

1 Academy Ruins
1 Bayou
1 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Forest
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Karakas
4 Maze of Ith
3 Mishra's Factory
1 Misty Rainforest
3 Rishadan Port
2 Savannah
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
3 Tolaria West
3 Tropical Island
1 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wasteland
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
34 lands


1 Crucible of Worlds
2 Engineered Explosives
3 Enlightened Tutor
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Entomb
4 Exploration
4 Life from the Loam
1 Manabond
1 Meekstone
4 Mox Diamond
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Smokestack
1 Zuran Orb

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-1 Rishadan Port, +1 Tabernacle.

Matt: Hitting an early draw dramatically increased the odds of playing other slow players / matchups, which I felt was bad for me.

Soltakar: Fear of Merfolk, Jace, and Thrun. They're not too bad right now, as you get rare opportunities to make them relevant.

[Koopa]

How many Mental Missteps did you have to play against at the GP. I watched your game vs burn. Rough. Had you seen Loam you would have easily taken that game.

[mchainmail]

How many Mental Missteps did you have to play against at the GP. I watched your game vs burn. Rough. Had you seen Loam you would have easily taken that game.

I was only missteped in round 15, where my opponent went plains, mutavault, stoneforge. (I went E-Tutor, Manabond.)

All in all, it was a very strange tournament.

[lord09]

Any chance of a tournament report?

[Koopa]

So, do you feel this deck gets hurt enough by Misstep. Not resolving a acceleration spell seems like we are going to have a hard time winning. Or do you feel that we can still play a game without it?

[nayon]

So, do you feel this deck gets hurt enough by Misstep. Not resolving a acceleration spell seems like we are going to have a hard time winning. Or do you feel that we can still play a game without it?

That's the critical question imo.

[Fuzzy]

Today I played Lands in a 63 players champs, but ended really poorly: 2-3-1. I was something like 30+ hours without sleep, and that lead me with several mistakes along the day.

My list was that: (Yes, 61 cards and I have no clue what i should cut)

4 Exploration
4 Life from the Loam
4 Mox Diamond
3 E. Tutor
3 Manabond
1 Intuition
1 CoW
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 E.E.
1 Mindslaver
1 Zuran Orb

4 Port
4 Waste
1 Ghost Quarter
4 Maze of Ith
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Tabernacle
3 Tolaria West
2 Tranquil Thicket
1 Horizon Canopy
3 Tropical
2 Savannah
1 Bayou
4 Green Fetchs
1 Forest
3 Mishra's Factory
1 Karakas
1 Academy Ruins

SB:
3 Bob
3 Chalice
2 Extirpate
1 Dark Tutelage
1 Canonist
1 Mana Maze
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Seal of Cleansing
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Pithing Needle (mainly for Jace)

The only relevant black cards was the Confidant effects. But I had an idea/question: What if we had KotR instead of Confidants, so we can cut all black and had a better manabase?

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KotR and Confidant do completely different things. Confidant is there partially because it gives us an alternate engine when grave hate is up post-sideboard. KotR does not do this at all, as the deck typically does not have many forests and plains to spare.

[iostream]

New toy to play with in M12:

http://img.coolstuffinc.net/products...012/m12224.jpg

Possibly a colorless Academy Ruins alternative.

[GoldenCid]

New toy to play with in M12:

http://img.coolstuffinc.net/products...012/m12224.jpg

Possibly a colorless Academy Ruins alternative.

Can`t see the link :(

[NecroYawgmoth]

It read's:

Buried Ruin
Land - Uncommon
{T}: Add 1 to your mana pool.
2, {T}, Sacrifice Buried Ruin: Return target artifact card from your graveyard to your hand.


And, yes IMO it looks also better than Ruins. You can sac it for 2 [which is the same mana Ruins needs, in fact, its 2 colorless, so you don't need U], and you get the card in your hand, which means you don't need that Thicket, if you use it during your turn.

[LandMaster]

Reserved for huge post that I am making

[Antonius]

It read's:

Buried Ruin
Land - Uncommon
{T}: Add 1 to your mana pool.
2, {T}, Sacrifice Buried Ruin: Return target artifact card from your graveyard to your hand.


And, yes IMO it looks also better than Ruins. You can sac it for 2 [which is the same mana Ruins needs, in fact, its 2 colorless, so you don't need U], and you get the card in your hand, which means you don't need that Thicket, if you use it during your turn.

Why would you want to sacrifice a land when ruins can give you semi permanent access to EE without Loam?

Also, at this stage in the deck's development, running without Tolaria West is highly inadvisable. So even the colorless argument doesn't hold that great a merit.