I see no reason either of these. As far as I'm concerned, 7 Chant Tendrils combo will beat blue decks much better than Spiral Tide does. That deck isn't capable of the tricks Solidairty is. Also, Goblins will be a very good deck again, which already is plenty of reason for blue to be worse.Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin
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Hooray! Legacy doesn't suck anymore.
I didn't like playing against MM. I wasn't sure if it was broken though. From a personal play standpoint, I like the ban, but from the perspective of precedent and decision procedures for banning, I don't like this ban.
I can only assume the metagame will speed up dramatically. Let's see if Counterbalance, Merfolk, and TA will be able to keep the format in check. Also, I wonder if Chalice will make a comeback.
peace,
4eak
Damn, I have 3 playsets of MMS (4x Japanese, 4x Chinese, 4x English), but the ban is good, the card wasn't broken but the format wasn't as fun with more free counters.
I think I'll have to look for a card that can take MMS's place in Affinity...
This looks like a job for me.
Most of my posts will be written from my phone, so please excuse the eventual lack of proper typing.
The good thing about the commentary is that they are still thinking about legacy when they print cards. They knew giving us a toy like MM would be a gamble, but they went ahead and did it anyway. I like that.
And I basically agree with what 4eak said.
Honestly, I love the banning, and I love the reasoning. And I enjoyed pre-MM meta as well.Unfortunately, it turned out poorly. Looking at high-level tournaments, instead of results having blue and nonblue decks playing Mental Misstep, there are more blue decks than ever. The DCI is banning Mental Misstep, with the hopes of restoring the more diverse metagame that existed prior to the printing of Mental Misstep.
If you fail to explain the reason behind your choice, technically, it's the wrong choice.
Zerk Thread -- Really, fun deck! ^^
For all the "format is diverse again" discussions I'd like to lay out an approximate list of decks buried and revived with the banning of Mental Misstep. Then maybe we can have a more objective, clearer picture if that's really the case or not. Please feel free to contribute to the list.
Buried:
UW Stonebalde
UW Landstill
BUG Landstill
NO RUG -> Will probably transform back to Canadian Thresh
Reanimator
Maverick -> Will fold to combo pretty easily. I think it will be as viable as Goblins in a format with MM.
Revived:
ANT
TES
High Tide
Goblins
Counterbalance
So we lost decks like Reanimator and Maverick and we lost control decks (also haven't mentioned mid-range). We gained three combo decks (good luck playing non blue decks), most boring control deck to play against of all times and another tribal deck (we already had "Vial, turn guys sideways" in Merfolk, might as well play the same thing in red coat now).
Doesn't seem like a better meta to me.
My theory:
-Goblins will be goblins.
-Storm is going to make a strong comeback. TES and Spiral Tide will be shaking up the format.
- In response, Counterbalance decks will be toying with new stuff like Stoneforge Mystic + Batterskull. Don't be surprised to see Blade CounterTop.
- I think No RuG is NOT going to die. They will adjust their deck. RuG Decks have beenly slowly developing before MMS anyways.
This is what I expect the meta to possibly look like:
Dredge
TES
High Tide
No RuG
Blade CounterTop
Merfolk
Goblins
Zoo
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Seriously guys? The sky isn't falling yet chicken little. I have not a clue why you think the top decks are going to rotate just because they lost Misstep. NORUG is still a good deck, it just runs daze or snare instead now. And I have no idea why everyone thinks that Stoneblade is suddenly dead. There has literally never been a time when we didn't have both Batterskull and Misstep. Honestly, it seems to me that SFM+Skull is going to be as good vs aggro as ever. Maybe we should all just calm down for a week or two and see what actually happens.
- I agree. I'm not sure if you aimed that post at me or not.
Them Banning MM is the day I felt when brainstorm got restricted in Vintage, a broken and crushed man.
As for the bannings in Modern, the format still has alot of developement room, I really wish BB came off the list because it only wasn't good in Fae but rock decks used to use it too
Uhhh. SFM + Batterskull clearly becomes much worse against aggro as the strategy can no longer stop a turn 1 play like Lackey or Vial or Lavamancer as easily, and can't stop a Chain Lightning on SFM as easily.
For my confessions, they burned me with fire/
And found I was for endurance made
Generally speaking, 7 counters > 7 chant effects.
Also, better card draw.
Goblins might be good except that is has a horrid combo matchup.
For my confessions, they burned me with fire/
And found I was for endurance made
The meta will look like High Tide, Dredge, and ANT. Other decks aren't a good choice here.
Snapcaster Mage, I'm pretty sure, is going to vault High Tide to being the #1 deck.
Just a small nerd rage here
Seriously, it's already bad enough calling a deck which is primarily UG as RUG instead of UGr, now you make it's most powerful color a lower case letter? It should be UGr NO, but at least call it NO RUG if not.
/nerdrage
If you fail to explain the reason behind your choice, technically, it's the wrong choice.
Zerk Thread -- Really, fun deck! ^^
- What are your thoughts on No Rug?
Nourg.
For my confessions, they burned me with fire/
And found I was for endurance made
It was really dependent on it being the fastest reliable combo in the format. Now a turn 3 Progenitus looks fairly mild.
For my confessions, they burned me with fire/
And found I was for endurance made
- That's a good point. Do you think Counterbalance will return? What do you think the meta will look like?
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