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    Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    The twitter feed in the latest Open is abuzz with talk of banning Brainstorm, while SCG Open coverage sensationalizes the "dominance" of "blue" as though that were something new.

    Personally, I don't think the format can survive the banning of Brainstorm. Is this a move to kill interest in Legacy and drive Modern? Or are they just stupid enough to think banning Brainstorm will somehow restore "balance" (whatever that means) to Legacy?

    Discuss.
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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Quote Originally Posted by majikal View Post
    The twitter feed in the latest Open is abuzz with talk of banning Brainstorm, while SCG Open coverage sensationalizes the "dominance" of "blue" as though that were something new.

    Personally, I don't think the format can survive the banning of Brainstorm. Is this a move to kill interest in Legacy and drive Modern? Or are they just stupid enough to think banning Brainstorm will somehow restore "balance" (whatever that means) to Legacy?

    Discuss.
    What really should be discussed is why everyone would jump ship if brainstorm is banned?

    Are people really going to ditch their decks just because brainstorm is banned? I don't think so.

    Brainstorm is overpowered. Its the best blue card there is.

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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    I for one will NOT jump off a cliff if I can't run brainstorm any more.
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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    So we should just ban the best card in every color? That's dumb. There will always be a best card in every color, so should we just keep banning things until everyone has to do nothing but turn creatures sideways? Or is it just some arbitrary aversion to the color blue that we're seeing here?

    Complaining that a color is overpowered without it actually homogenizing the format (I mean, seriously look at the wealth of decklists putting up numbers) is just bitching because your randomly chosen color of choice isn't as good as another color that you dislike for some other, purely psychological reason.
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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Brainstorm is one of my favorite cards :(..
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    Quote Originally Posted by majikal View Post
    So we should just ban the best card in every color? That's dumb. There will always be a best card in every color, so should we just keep banning things until everyone has to do nothing but turn creatures sideways?
    No one is saying the best card in every color should be banned or that everything should be banned until only creatures are left. So why would you quit if Brainstorm is banned?
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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Quote Originally Posted by CorpT View Post
    No one is saying the best card in every color should be banned or that everything should be banned until only creatures are left. So why would you quit if Brainstorm is banned?
    I would quit if Brainstorm were banned, because I play this format specifically so I can play Brainstorm. It has been my favorite card since it was printed, along with Survival of the Fittest (which very nearly made me quit when it was banned, but I still had Brainstorm).

    The bottom line is that I play Legacy so I can play with my old cards. If they keep banning all of the old spells and outclassing all of the old creatures, why should I play the format? It would be just like Modern with dual lands instead of shock lands. I'd rather sell my collection and find something to occupy my time where some committee won't keep fucking with everything just because some people in a third-party tournament series complain about something that they don't really know much about.
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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    It seems very unlikely Brainstorm will be banned, even if the whiners are out in particular force again. There will always be some amount of complaining over the Internet, especially from people who aren't winning anything. It seems much more likely competitive Magic will die as a result of Hasbro's funding cuts than Brainstorm leaving the format.
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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Everyone's talking about how Brainstorm is so great (or should be banned) just because Wizards admitted that Mental Misstep was made to help fight Brainstorm.

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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    I don't often play Brainstorm decks, but I still like having the card in the format for nostalgic reasons?

    But why the hell would people jump to Modern if they were unable to play Brainstorm in Legacy? It's not like Brainstorm is legal in that format either, and there is an extensive list of other problems associated with Modern.

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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    This sounds like another rant to me about brainstorm.

    This thread isn't going anywhere.

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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthepit View Post
    But why the hell would people jump to Modern if they were unable to play Brainstorm in Legacy?
    There are a lot of Legacy players right now that play it simply because it is a format with a lot of support from SCG. It's pretty simple really. Legacy becomes less popular = SCG pushes Modern = lots of players jump ship to the new hot format.
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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Brainstorm is getting banned!?!??!!?

    Sky is falling!!!!

    After I sell my Legacy collection, I need to go buy every modern staple ever with all my money.

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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    I saw this as the thread title, "Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping..."

    My stomach dropped and I thought it was "SCG jumping to modern on Sundays"

    I'm very relieved that its just brainstorm banning worries.

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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    I kinda think this thread should be in mish mash but maybe its just the time of night.

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    Brainstorm is getting banned!?!??!!?

    Sky is falling!!!!

    After I sell my Legacy collection, I need to go buy every modern staple ever with all my money.

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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Isn't it always awesome how people complain that a card warps the meta and want it banned just to find the next one short after an updated B&R list? Does really anybody think that the meta would be more balanced if brainstorm was banned? Every time a control-cards gotten the axe combo was on the rise and shortly after missteps banning there was a discussion how Show and Tell, LED Hive mind are allowed to exist.

    Obviously the predicted Combo winter was very short and blue found grip again. So switched the banning interests back to blue. Same shit, different day...

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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Who cares?

    So far SCG and every other magic website in existence has been hosting articles from a bunch of nobodys in the format crying about banning XXX or XXX cards non-stop and so far all that has been banned as a result was Mental Misstep and Survival of the Fittest. Both of these cards were omnipresent in top 8's for a while. Granted Brainstorm is omnipresent in Legacy top 8's as well but only because every blue deck except Merfolk is going to run it as a 4x. Blue is by far the most played color which does a lot to account for it's incredible amount of top 8's, not to mention most of the best players play blue. Any color has that card that is going to show up in 99% of decks that aren't combo, blue's just happens to be Brainstorm. I wouldn't worry too much. Lots of decks are well positioned to beat the new flavor of blue tempo decks that have started showing up.
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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    Isn't it always awesome how people complain that a card warps the meta and want it banned just to find the next one short after an updated B&R list? Does really anybody think that the meta would be more balanced if brainstorm was banned? Every time a control-cards gotten the axe combo was on the rise and shortly after missteps banning there was a discussion how Show and Tell, LED Hive mind are allowed to exist.

    Obviously the predicted Combo winter was very short and blue found grip again. So switched the banning interests back to blue. Same shit, different day...

    I swear the Main reason to quit Legacy for me will Be this endless shit
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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    To all the people willing to quit if brainstorm gets banned...please do.

    I mean, holy shit you guys have 100s and oftentimes 1000s of dollars invested in a game you spend hours and hours of your precious life playing and you want to quit because you can't cast a brainstorm? I'm not intelligent/sober enough to articulate how fundamentally retarded you must be to have dedicated hard-earned money and valuable time for many years to something apparently very enjoyable to just quit over something as trivial as the banning of one card. It's hard to stop ranting when 91234893 analogies keep coming to mind so I'll just stop and let other fill in the blanks.

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    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    Seriously, all the whiners need to check themselves. If you don't like the format, we're not forcing you at gunpoint to play legacy.

    Brainstorm is one of the things that makes this format special. Especially the fact that you can play four of them. It takes a lot of skill and patience to play the card correctly, and banning it only services the kids who just want to derp around with their Blazing Shoals and Valakuts.

    I'm saying this as a dedicated aggro (Non-Blue) player. Brainstorm is awesome. Keep Legacy legacy.
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