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    Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Re: Legacy is doomed. SCG jumping on board the "Ban Brainstorm" wagon. :(

    As requested.

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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Imo it is clear that Brainstorm has to get the Axe. Before Snapcaster I was of the opinion that it deserved a ban, but it wasn't too bad. But now it has gotten ridiculous.

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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    I voted no, but I will not be very upset if it is banned, and I believe a ban is not unlikely. In any case I would prefer it if we could wait for a couple more months to see how the format evolves.

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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

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    Actually, though, that wasn't Tiago's original submission. This was his first request:

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    R&D tried this card out, but they decided that a land that could also be an uncounterable counterspell was too strong to print. So they asked Tiago for another version.
    And that turned into Snapcaster Mage!
    -YAY!!!! Nowhere between the last two lines do I see "and R&D tried this card out too"
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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Brainstorm is fun. Just ban snapcaster.

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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Quote Originally Posted by lyracian View Post
    Brainstorm is fun. Just ban snapcaster.
    Agreed. Brainstorm has been around forever and although being always powerful it never crossed that ban line. The problem today is everything else that blue got in te last few blocks.
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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Of the new blue beaters, I think Delver is far the greater reason to ban Brainstorm, but it does need to get axed.
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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Ban Snapcaster AND Delver..
    Ridiculous shit is ridiculous.

    Banning Brainstorm itself would really fuck the format up.
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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    In my opinion Brainstorm doesn't need to be banned. BS is played by multiple blue based/blue splashed decks, from UW control to Blue Zoo to Ant. All those decks would have to part from this beautiful and powerful tool; could you imagine Legacy without Brainstorm? If I had to ban something, I'd really ban Snapcaster Mage. He's just stupid good. Brainstorm is very good-probably the best card available in legacy, but Snapcaster just happens to be a 3cc late game additional copy of Brainstorm, with a body. Non blue decks can handle 4 Brainstorm , but they just can't handle the threat density that 4 Brainstorm+ 4 Swords to Plowshares and 4 Snapcaster Mage give to control decks. Moreover, the combination of 4 Snapcaster+some SB Surgical Extraction gives to control decks an incredible edge post sb versus non-Snapcaster decks. He's just too good.Not to mention the obvious additional copies of Spell Snare. I imagine he should belong to the stupid-Vintage Brokeness (in fact Vintage Snapcontrol decks are starting top8ing events everywhere), not to legacy.He's the card (now that Misstep is gone) that fundamentally broken the equilibrium in favor of Blue decks. He is, not Brainstorm.
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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    If they ban brainstorm, blue will still be the best color and the most played, because it's the only color with solutions to everything AND library manipulation all in the same pack.
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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    Of the new blue beaters, I think Delver is far the greater reason to ban Brainstorm, but it does need to get axed.
    -Why?

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    If they ban brainstorm, blue will still be the best color and the most played, because it's the only color with solutions to everything AND library manipulation all in the same pack.
    NOPE BLUE WILL NOT BE PLAYED AFTER BRAINSTORM IS BANNED IT WILL NOW BE BALANCED oh wait people still play combo decks guess I'll still play blue because I don't want to die in 2 turns. Guess I'll just change out brainstorm for ponder.

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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Quote Originally Posted by DragoFireheart View Post
    -Why?



    NOPE BLUE WILL NOT BE PLAYED AFTER BRAINSTORM IS BANNED IT WILL NOW BE BALANCED oh wait people still play combo decks guess I'll still play blue because I don't want to die in 2 turns. Guess I'll just change out brainstorm for ponder.
    Most people play blue because nothing is more powerful in a game of randomness than having the ability to decrease said randomness. Blue has access to the best tools for increasing consistency and as such blue is the best color.

    Relatively few people play blue solely because it has a good combo game, methinks.
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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Hell fucking no.
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    NO

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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkshineKnight View Post
    Relatively few people play blue solely because it has a good combo game, methinks.
    Funny, I seem to remember a FLOOD of blue based control decks after the FLOOD of combo decks when MMS was banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    blue beaters
    now there is the problem, too much color identity bleed

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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Quote Originally Posted by mojoiskewl View Post
    now there is the problem, too much color identity bleed
    Yeah, I'm not sure what moron from WotC decided that a 3/2 flier for U was a good idea.

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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Quote Originally Posted by DragoFireheart View Post
    Yeah, I'm not sure what moron from WotC decided that a 3/2 flier for U was a good idea.
    This is the big problem we face right now. Brainstorm has always been overpowered, but it camps out at that limit of too good. Getting a super aggressive blue creature that actually makes running Brainstorm a lot better is insane. Either something with the banlist happens, or we start an era where not running blue is strictly a tactical error.
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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Quote Originally Posted by DragoFireheart View Post
    -Why?
    It's more powerful.

    NOPE BLUE WILL NOT BE PLAYED AFTER BRAINSTORM IS BANNED IT WILL NOW BE BALANCED oh wait people still play combo decks guess I'll still play blue because I don't want to die in 2 turns. Guess I'll just change out brainstorm for ponder.
    I mean if you think that Brainstorm and Ponder are comparable, I really don't know what to tell you.
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    Re: Ban on Brainstorm: Yes or No (Post Snapcaster Mage)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    It's more powerful.
    -So is Tarmogoyf. And Force of Will. And Stoneforge Mystic. And Entomb. And every other card worth playing. They're all "more powerful" than jank like Grizzly Bears.

    Powerful card != ban worthy. Give a better argument.


    I mean if you think that Brainstorm and Ponder are comparable, I really don't know what to tell you.
    -Your reading comprehension is pretty awful IBA.

    I guess Snappy and Delver have nothing to do with blues recent success. Oh no, couldn't be those two new cards...

    http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/deck.php?id=7118

    Nope, must be brainstorm...

    http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/dec...8&iddeck=51698

    Yup, must be brainstorm!

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