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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

    The most important point about Jace in this deck is that is cancels out an active Jace, which considering the game state that usually occurs in, is a great thing. I could see someone going to 3 Cliques too, since that creature is such a house in the right metagame.

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    EDIT: In light of the recent trend of the week, Geist of Saint Traft might be an issue for some Maverick lists (read: ALL OF THEM). Any ideas on how to answer this card? A 2/2 blocker is sufficient, provided it doesn't go Farming, but what's our insurance policy when Geist gets equipped with a Sword?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rukcus View Post
    The most important point about Jace in this deck is that is cancels out an active Jace, which considering the game state that usually occurs in, is a great thing. I could see someone going to 3 Cliques too, since that creature is such a house in the right metagame.

    Flying is still king in Legacy.

    EDIT: In light of the recent trend of the week, Geist of Saint Traft might be an issue for some Maverick lists (read: ALL OF THEM). Any ideas on how to answer this card? A 2/2 blocker is sufficient, provided it doesn't go Farming, but what's our insurance policy when Geist gets equipped with a Sword?
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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

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    Quote Originally Posted by rukcus View Post
    EDIT: In light of the recent trend of the week, Geist of Saint Traft might be an issue for some Maverick lists (read: ALL OF THEM). Any ideas on how to answer this card? A 2/2 blocker is sufficient, provided it doesn't go Farming, but what's our insurance policy when Geist gets equipped with a Sword?
    Tariff for Geist on your turn provided that there is no V Clique in play and if your opponent has 2 or less lands untapped. Usage is extremely situational though obviously and I'm sure there are better SB options. Maybe Mirran Crusader? Not a fan of either since it's not an instant and can also go farming before combat. And like the above mentioned, Krosan Grip for Sword.

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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by rukcus View Post
    The most important point about Jace in this deck is that is cancels out an active Jace, which considering the game state that usually occurs in, is a great thing. I could see someone going to 3 Cliques too, since that creature is such a house in the right metagame.

    Flying is still king in Legacy.

    EDIT: In light of the recent trend of the week, Geist of Saint Traft might be an issue for some Maverick lists (read: ALL OF THEM). Any ideas on how to answer this card? A 2/2 blocker is sufficient, provided it doesn't go Farming, but what's our insurance policy when Geist gets equipped with a Sword?
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    Phyrexian Metamorph as a two or three of in the board could help combat Reanimator, Show and Tell, opposing equipment, as well as Natural Order, Geist, and V. Clique. This may, however, make an E. Tutor sideboard unfeasible.
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    Phantasmal Image may actually start to make more sense now; Metamorph is still decent but a little pricier. Maze of Ith might be able to stem some of the aggro until you can land a blocker for Geist as well.
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    If you want Image, you need the blue splash, and you lose quite a bit of utility in not being able to copy equipment. The difference in mana cost is fairly minimal in a deck easily capable of producing 3 mana on turn two. Not to mention it dodged Spell Snare (which is still seeing quite a bit of play).
    Quote Originally Posted by ktkenshinx View Post
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    hey everyone. lots of maverick in my meta, and I dont really know how to sideboard versus them. what is the achilles heel of the deck?

    I'm playing a MUD deck and have 3 or so extra slots left over.

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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by kwelts View Post
    hey everyone. lots of maverick in my meta, and I dont really know how to sideboard versus them. what is the achilles heel of the deck?

    I'm playing a MUD deck and have 3 or so extra slots left over.
    Damn lots of creature removals, i.e. the gate, eva green, or pox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar of Shadow View Post
    Damn lots of creature removals, i.e. the gate, eva green, or pox.
    so I just grab extra removal. hmmm. ok I'll add All Is Dust. thanks.

    EDIT: Karn Liberated works well for this too. I'll try that out.
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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by rukcus View Post
    EDIT: In light of the recent trend of the week, Geist of Saint Traft might be an issue for some Maverick lists (read: ALL OF THEM). Any ideas on how to answer this card? A 2/2 blocker is sufficient, provided it doesn't go Farming, but what's our insurance policy when Geist gets equipped with a Sword?
    Is this a serious problem against Maverick? I feel this is a lot more of an issue for control decks (i.e. Stoneblade mirrors) where Geist can easily destroy a planeswalker. Certainly, Geist with a couple of equipment strapped on is very difficult to beat, but Maverick has so many blockers that can kill Geist easily, plus plenty of ways to get rid of opposing equipment. I don't currently consider Geist a huge issue for Maverick.

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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthepit View Post
    Is this a serious problem against Maverick? I feel this is a lot more of an issue for control decks (i.e. Stoneblade mirrors) where Geist can easily destroy a planeswalker. Certainly, Geist with a couple of equipment strapped on is very difficult to beat, but Maverick has so many blockers that can kill Geist easily, plus plenty of ways to get rid of opposing equipment. I don't currently consider Geist a huge issue for Maverick.
    My geist is never useful against mav. Mav's blockers are too big for geist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar of Shadow View Post
    My geist is never useful against mav. Mav's blockers are too big for geist.
    Scryb Ranger is very useful against Geist.

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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

    Geist looks like compareable Thrun, but can be coutered, can be blocked easier, and can't be GSZed, so in Maverick it's not so good.

    But in Aggro Bant it can be nuts.

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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by Fatal View Post
    Geist looks like compareable Thrun, but can be coutered, can be blocked easier, and can't be GSZed, so in Maverick it's not so good.

    But in Aggro Bant it can be nuts.
    How is it nuts in bant....bant is almost identical to mav except for some splash of blue (18 cards).

    My geist is never useful against Iscare's mav deck. Should i be running SFM package with geist?

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    I think Geist's power probably depends on what you run that has synergy with it. For instance lists with Elspeth, a pro:Green Sword and/or Maze of Ith, give you several cards that combo well with him. I wouldn't build around Geist due to it not really providing any utility, but Hexproof and 6 attacking power is pretty cool if it fits the build one's already working with.

    I actually think Geist has better synergy in Maverick than in Bant agro. The ground tends to clog up for Bant in agro/agro-control matches. Most recent lists Source posters have been discussing have dropped the SFM package in favor of GSZ at least in the main. At this point with Mother of Runes and SFM -> Sword of X&Y, Maverick has more ways to get a ground attacker to sneak through.

    I've already mentioned it in other threads, but my biggest concern with Geist is that it's cutting into the decks utility for a non-evasive beater. If one's meta has a lot of Blade Control and combo decks this is maybe fine, but if there's a lot of agro and midrange it seems like an underwhelming card to draw into.

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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by from Cairo View Post
    I think Geist's power probably depends on what you run that has synergy with it. For instance lists with Elspeth, a pro:Green Sword and/or Maze of Ith, give you several cards that combo well with him. I wouldn't build around Geist due to it not really providing any utility, but Hexproof and 6 attacking power is pretty cool if it fits the build one's already working with.

    I actually think Geist has better synergy in Maverick than in Bant agro. The ground tends to clog up for Bant in agro/agro-control matches. Most recent lists Source posters have been discussing have dropped the SFM package in favor of GSZ at least in the main. At this point with Mother of Runes and SFM -> Sword of X&Y, Maverick has more ways to get a ground attacker to sneak through.

    I've already mentioned it in other threads, but my biggest concern with Geist is that it's cutting into the decks utility for a non-evasive beater. If one's meta has a lot of Blade Control and combo decks this is maybe fine, but if there's a lot of agro and midrange it seems like an underwhelming card to draw into.
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    Re: [DTB] GW/x Maverick

    I think Geist is better against control decks because they tend not to have guys who can block / kill it on top of the hexproof being more relevant.

    Against an aggro deck where you're likely on the defensive and needing to stabilize, a 3 mana 2/2 just isn't that great.

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