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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSTORM ONGOING]

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    Angel of Jubilation makes me glad since it means Wizards has finally figured out that interesting white hate abilities don't have to get stuck on crappy bear bodies. Now this particular girl is at best decent, but I'm looking forward to future white spoiler lists not being restricted to "ok, what's the new 1-of for Maverick?".
    But this Angel makes me sad. Her hosing ability would be best on a cheap body to actually have a great impact in form of hosing fetchlands (and FoW, to a lesser degree).

    But at the point she enters the game, it's already past the point where her ability would have mattered the most.

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    Heh, seems like I'm the only one most interested in the Soulbond creatures, looks like a pretty funny and strong mechanic.

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    All this discussion about the miracle mechanic is getting a bit tiring. I don't know whether or not the mechanic will be overpowered, or whether or not it will result in Brainstorm getting banned (hope not. Legacy wouldn't feel the same without Brainstorm).

    But from a purely subjective standpoint, I just don't find the mechanic all that fun or interesting, really.

    Avacyn is really hot, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grollub View Post
    Heh, seems like I'm the only one most interested in the Soulbond creatures, looks like a pretty funny and strong mechanic.
    Not the only one, we just do not have many to look at yet.

    I think Knight of the Reliquary with Double Strike could be interesting. Not sure they are good enough but I will have a go at replacing SFM with Silverblades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyracian View Post
    Not the only one, we just do not have many to look at yet.

    I think Knight of the Reliquary with Double Strike could be interesting. Not sure they are good enough but I will have a go at replacing SFM with Silverblades.
    Knight of the Reliquary doesn't profit from DS most of the time, because when the enemy monster is weaker, the second strike is useless. I personally like Mirran Crusader more, because he has inbuild evasion.

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    Personally, I'm strangely fond of the flying Soulbond dude. Hopefully we'll see more soulbond creatures with nifty abilities (gawd I want hexproof on a cheap guy), they kind makes all your creature's pseudo-slivers.

    I don't think the true strength of the doublestriker is to make a beast into a beast++, but rather more or less turn anything into a respectable creature while also being one on his own.

    Anyone know if you can bond a soulbond creature to a new partner should the first one die?

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    Anyone know if you can bond a soulbond creature to a new partner should the first one die?
    Yes, if you have a soulbound creature in play you can pair it with another one unpaired entering in play

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSTORM ONGOING]

    Why so excited over Soulbond? It's kind of just a bad Lord effect + the disadvantages inherent in trying to play Auras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Why so excited over Soulbond? It's kind of just a bad Lord effect + the disadvantages inherent in trying to play Auras.
    You can't move Auras like you can with Soulbond. It's not a terrible mechanic, but probably not Legacy playable.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSTORM ONGOING]

    Unless they make a Hexproof one that is. Then we're talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinch View Post
    Yes, if you have a soulbound creature in play you can pair it with another one unpaired entering in play
    Ah yes, just saw they stop being paired when one die. Thanks.

    Soulbond (You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters the battlefield. They remain paired for as long as you control both of them.)

    Does this mean that if you have a soulbond creature, A, bond to B you cannot bond it to C when C enters the battlefield, as A is a paired creature. Not entirely sure on my english semantics...

    Love the mechanic anyhow.


    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Why so excited over Soulbond? It's kind of just a bad Lord effect + the disadvantages inherent in trying to play Auras.
    Because it's alright to be excited over interesting cards as well as broken ones. :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grollub View Post
    Ah yes, just saw they stop being paired when one die. Thanks.

    Soulbond (You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters the battlefield. They remain paired for as long as you control both of them.)

    Does this mean that if you have a soulbond creature, A, bond to B you cannot bond it to C when C enters the battlefield, as A is a paired creature. Not entirely sure on my english semantics...
    Correct. However, note that the original soulbound is a may. So, theoretically, you could have a Geist of Saint Traft in play, play the Paladin, swing with Geist, then pair with the angel.
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    They said at PAX that black isn't getting any miracles. I think they'll be more like curses in terms of distribution.
    Its well known that black's Miracle card was printed years ago in Mirage, better known as Lion's Eye Diamond.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSTORM ONGOING]

    Soulbond feels rather similar to Exalted, sacrificing flexibility in exchange for more powerful bonuses. And as for Exalted, a utility guy (mana elf, disenchanter, hate bear, etc.) with a decent Soulbond ability could probably be very playable in Legacy.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSTORM ONGOING]

    Quote Originally Posted by Nihil Credo View Post
    Soulbond feels rather similar to Exalted, sacrificing flexibility in exchange for more powerful bonuses. And as for Exalted, a utility guy (mana elf, disenchanter, hate bear, etc.) with a decent Soulbond ability could probably be very playable in Legacy.
    I agree, one that gives an activated ability would be sweet.

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    This set is awesome already. We've had so many political allusions its awesome. The Soulbond mechanic alludes to non-dicriminatory marriage and the potential stillbirth of Temporal Mastery alludes to wizardly abortion arguments. One could even argue that a little Demon worship is going down on the side.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSTORM ONGOING]

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    The Soulbond mechanic alludes to non-dicriminatory marriage
    Avacyn and Iona will never bond! NEVER!

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    Avacyn and Iona will never bond! NEVER!
    The 2013 big Fall set will have just that. It'll be called Return to Zendikar, and it'll see Avacyn, who has inherited Sorin's spark, travel to Zendikar to beat down the Eldrazi, and lezzing up with Iona on her spare time. I'd buy a few boxes of that.

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    Avacyn and Iona will never bond! NEVER!
    I vote for Akroma and another angel with Soulbond. Sexiest playmat ever.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSTORM ONGOING]

    If anything, Selena & Avacyn soulbond playmat. Sexy black on white on black/white angel action, done on a white playmat with black sharpie.
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