[DO NOT TRY TO SELL IN HERE] Pimp Legacy Decks

[hukstor]

READ what I said. Arbitrage as an equalising factor that causes the prevalence of fair prices is completely imaginary. Does it exist? Sure. Is it effective? Obviously not.

I did read what you wrote. Arbitrage as an equalising factor is not imaginary at all and is quite effective. It may not be effective in every closed off market such as Japanese foils due to other conditions, but to simply say it's imaginary in every market is quite ludicrous. If you monitored the Russian foil market in Russia at all, you would know of a counter example to your point. The price of Russian Foil Snapcasters were initially around $100 in Russia and a few sold in the $300-400 range in the US. Over the past several months, the price in Russia has steadily risen to slightly over $400 (with about the same amount being sold in forums every month) while the price in the US has risen to around $500. The rise in price was due to just a few resellers' activities in the Russian forums. Is arbitrage a perfect equaliser in this closed off market? No, but to say it's imaginary is simply ignoring facts. The fact that just a few arbitrageurs were able to pull the price that closely together shows that it's not imaginary. This is also not a phenomenon unique only to Snapcasters - I just used it as an example.

[Snap_Keep]

The idea that $500 for one card is too much is relative to their discretionary budget.

Is that not the point of this thread? Bragging? Bragging about your fancy cards is basically just bragging about how much you net every month. Could we just cut out the middle man and have everyone compare bank statements?

If you're rich, then maybe 600-1200 doesn't really matter to you the same way it matters to a student or your average working stiff.

[Solaran_X]

I do have F&L lands, only because I haven't hunkered down and bought the full-art Zen foils yet... I recently 'upgraded' my Guides to the GP ones. Personally, I like the art better. And of course the Chain Lightnings, Price, and Fireblast are F&L since that's the only way to get them in foil I believe

There is an old FNM (I believe) Fireblast that uses the old frame, has the shooting star, and the DCI logo where the expansion symbol would have been.

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/70-r...ards-2001.html

If you're rich, then maybe 600-1200 doesn't really matter to you the same way it matters to a student or your average working stiff.

Hey...I'm an average working stiff and I got a ~$10K Vintage deck.

[TheElvishPiper]

If you're rich, then maybe 600-1200 doesn't really matter to you the same way it matters to a student or your average working stiff.

I'm a student (paying for college myself), and I own a fully powered Type One deck thats 90% foiled out, among the binder full of foil cards for various blue Type One decks I like to play, and decks for other formats like EDH and Legacy.

Anyways....I received a few cards in the mail today, nothing too special:

[sdematt]

But, let's not beat around the bush, champs: for those of us who are students, how many of you are paying entirely for your education out of pocket, own a car, own a residence, and pay real taxes? I'm going to say very few.

Most of the students on here (myself included) either work to support our Magic habit, or have other things subsidized in some way, allowing us to fund our Magical card addiction. I'm pretty sure there's not too many guys on here with four kids, car payments, a mortgage, AND university bills that are in the process of building a $10K Vintage deck to be completed by the end of this month.

But, that's also the nice thing about this thread. You can look at some nice stuff and still respect it, just like most of us will never own a Ferrari but will still gawk at one parked across the street, which is totally fair. Furthermore, some of us may be the lucky few to own a Ferrari, but the guy with the Veyron is still going to attract my gaze as well.

-Matt

[Malacoda]

Picked up a few more things recently. Sorry for cell phone pictures.

[Snap_Keep]

Whoa... Jap foil Odious Trow, those are scare!

[coraz86]

Whoa... Jap foil Odious Trow, those are scare!

Actually, I would punch myself in the taint for a set of German foil Goatnappers, but alas I cannot find even one.

Fry has frequently complained, in his attempts to complete sets in foil, that it's actually harder to track down shit foils like Volcano Hellion and Scornful Egotist than good cards, because nobody--not players, not traders, not dealers--carries the random whatever, they only carry what they can reasonably expect to dump. That or he has to scour bulk bins on one wing and a prayer.

So; I don't know why you'd want a Japanese foil Odious Trow, Malacoda, but props for digging one up.

When I get my scanner back up I'll post my foil Ovinomancer and show you all.

[Occam]

I did read what you wrote. Arbitrage as an equalising factor is not imaginary at all and is quite effective. It may not be effective in every closed off market such as Japanese foils due to other conditions, but to simply say it's imaginary in every market is quite ludicrous. If you monitored the Russian foil market in Russia at all, you would know of a counter example to your point. The price of Russian Foil Snapcasters were initially around $100 in Russia and a few sold in the $300-400 range in the US. Over the past several months, the price in Russia has steadily risen to slightly over $400 (with about the same amount being sold in forums every month) while the price in the US has risen to around $500. The rise in price was due to just a few resellers' activities in the Russian forums. Is arbitrage a perfect equaliser in this closed off market? No, but to say it's imaginary is simply ignoring facts. The fact that just a few arbitrageurs were able to pull the price that closely together shows that it's not imaginary. This is also not a phenomenon unique only to Snapcasters - I just used it as an example.

Well, then you didn't read or comprehend what I said properly then.

No one is saying arbitrage doesn't exist. The fact that people are profitting by buying foreign cards from their local markets and selling to the wider market for profits is proof enough. That arbitrage is doing a horrible job of equalising the market for foreign cards is also undebiably true. If you like, we can get into an empirical debate on how PPP would promote a situation of arbitrage-induced price and spot equality, but we both know that I'd win that one because the only way PPP succeeds is if certain stringent conditions are imposed on it. We could also look at the IRP and how spot rates are impacted outside of interest rate differentials, say something like the PBOC's RRR cuts acting on the CNY/F/H outside of actual interest rate changes. And all that is with regards to large investment banks and funds, where there is liquidity AND market making. The market for cards is FAR less liquid, it really is ridiculous to make any form of assumption that some foreign cards are currently at their fair value, regardless of whether some people are making hasty assumptions about supply, which I am not.

Are you at least in agreement with regards to utility and price?

[Octopusman]

So; I don't know why you'd want a Japanese foil Odious Trow, Malacoda, but props for digging one up.

I don't know why he wants it either but I speculate Spanish Inquisition.

[thefringthing]

Russian Blood Moons are pimp? I think I've got one sitting around somewhere if someone wants one.

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

Russian Foil Blood Moons are pimp? I think I've got one sitting around somewhere if someone wants one.

[thefringthing]

Sure. The one in the photo doesn't look foil, though.

[dernestor86]

in nonfoil i guess they dont carry a big premium over english because russian 9th in nonfoil is everywhere

[DerFern]

there was a whitened dredge deck about a hundred pages ago (which i thought was really cool)

It is all-german and whitened. Btw, it´s up for sale. If anybody out there is interested, just send me a message ;)

[Basaka]

For my high tide. Candelabras are coming!

[Zakman86]

For my high tide. Candelabras are coming!

I always have loved Euro lands.

I'll have a pretty big post after SCG Birmingham once I pick up a ton of stuff. For those of you who like Japanese foil Enchantress decks, you'll like it. :-) (P.S. I hate not being able to find Presences)

[bfeingersh]

For my high tide. Candelabras are coming!

I'm so jealous. I've taken to collecting the UK Islands because I can't find any Venice ones :(

[sdematt]

Very nice Venice Islands. Have you ever been?

-Matt

[Gunseng]

Actually, I would punch myself in the taint for a set of German foil Goatnappers, but alas I cannot find even one.

There are several available on MKM currently. Only 0.50€, but I don't know if shipping to the US is possible.