Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?

[Arsenal]

Leyline of Punishment, a stretch but another possibility.

If Magnetic Mountain makes the cut, Leyline of Punishment is in there like booty hair.

[Shawon]

True-Name Nemesis is the Miley Cyrus of Legacy.




IT CAME IN LIKE A WRECKING BAAAAWWWWWLLLLLL!!!!


EDIT: And nothing is twerking against it.

[Arsenal]

I smell Doran making a comeback. 1/3 TNN? TECH.

[Shawon]

I smell Doran making a comeback. 1/3 TNN? TECH.

Doran + Meekstone/Crackdown. Attack with a 5/5 that still untaps and you can't untap your 1/3 attacker? NEXT LEVEL TECH.

[Star|Scream]

Doran + Meekstone/Crackdown. Attack with a 5/5 that still untaps and you can't untap your 1/3 attacker? NEXT LEVEL TECH.

Format solved

[nedleeds]

Skullcrack too!

EDIT: ned, you're slipping man. Please edit your TNN answer post with all of the great ones that have since been mentioned; Curfew, Flaring Pain and Skullcrack. We need to have an exhaustive list of all possible TNN answers. Thank you.

I'm not the one bleeding from the vagina over the cards presence. I could list every counterspell ever printed, meddling mage, the 1,000 sac effects etc., but you'd still find a way to cry.

[Arsenal]

I'm not the one bleeding from the vagina over the cards presence. I could list every counterspell ever printed, meddling mage, the 1,000 sac effects etc., but you'd still find a way to cry.

[Barook]

I smell Doran making a comeback. 1/3 TNN? TECH.

That sounds actually like fun. You can fetch it with GSZ and the color combination offers quite a few answers to TNN, too. Boosting your DRS and SFM is just an added bonus.

TNN would still be an excellent equipment carrier and indestructible blocker, though.

True-Name Nemesis is the Miley Cyrus of Legacy.

It already has enough attention, it doesn't need to whore itself like a drug-addicted hooker.

[Scott]

Whoever copyrighted "Go play Modern" as a retort is sitting on a gold mine.

Well, if you want to play in a format with an oppresive ban list where all the good cards are not being played, there's a format for you.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Res...rces/sfrmodern

Write another check. It's the "If you don't like America, you can giiit out" argument of post-September 11th politics.

[KobeBryan]

The problem isn't TNN itself, it is the equipment that goes along with it.

Something like Jitte, an equipment we used to legend rule out of the game, no longer works.

So now it becomes a battle of jittes, or whoever finds the answer to destroy it first wins.

I've been playing team america the last 2-3 months, the problem lies when the jitte resolves and you dont have the answer to it. TNN, i can just basically ignore and race.

[TheKingslayer]

The problem isn't TNN itself, it is the equipment that goes along with it.

Something like Jitte, an equipment we used to legend rule out of the game, no longer works.

So now it becomes a battle of jittes, or whoever finds the answer to destroy it first wins.

I've been playing team america the last 2-3 months, the problem lies when the jitte resolves and you dont have the answer to it. TNN, i can just basically ignore and race.

Was the equipment that problematic before the arrival of TNN?

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Several people in this thread should stop trying to be funny. They completely suck at it.

[TsumiBand]

Doran would be a lot better if you could prevent the equipment/aura from also hitting. Is it… is it time for Suppression Field.dec???

I read somewhere that Flanking was tech against True-Name Nemesis; Knight of the Holy Nimbus was like born to go in a deck with Suppression Field.

What a troll-ass White Weenie deck that would be.

THE INVINCIBLES
4 Clergy of the Holy Nimbus
4 Knight of the Holy Nimbus
4 Frontline Medic

THE TROLLS
4 Grand Abolisher
4 Mistmeadow Skulk

ALSO THIS GUY
4 Knight of the White Orchid

THE TECH
4 Suppression Field
4 Day of Judgment
4 Blue Scarab

THE LOOT
4 Swords to Plowshares

THE WARRANT
20 Plains

Is this the part where I give the deck a descriptive name like "Eternity and Exemption" or "Stan Getz" or something? I want to move to the naming phase. No need to test. This deck is amazing.

No, this deck is poopy. I just want Suppression Field to be a real card SO BAD

[Koby]

Several people in this thread should stop trying to be funny. They completely suck at it.

The Ignore button is a blessed gift to mankind.

[Barook]

I just want Suppression Field to be a real card SO BAD

Maybe when it's getting a hatebear body. As an enchantment, it sucks.

Was the equipment that problematic before the arrival of TNN?

If the equipment was the sole problem, why not play more Pridemages/Abrupt Decays?

Some kind of Junk/Dark Maverick deck sounds more and more attractive to handle TNN.

- Doran as GSZ target
- Pridemage and AD to handle problematic equipment
- potentially Liliana
- SFM for SoFaI (maybe)
- throw in some discard (which can also handle TNN and equipment) and DRS for good measure
- plenty of sideboard options including Zealous Persecution

Now the question is how much discard you can throw in to not auto-lose to combo and how to establish a decent clock (Goyfs?).

[KobeBryan]

Was the equipment that problematic before the arrival of TNN?

Not really the equipment...I would say its the legend rule.

Games just became jitte wars now.

[TsumiBand]

Not really the equipment...I would say its the legend rule.

Games just became about having a sideboard that included cards to fight Jitte that weren't also named Jitte now.

FTFY?

Given the propensity of players to dislike it when a card is its own best answer, I'm surprised that this is still a discussion point. Hell, a ton of players don't even like it when Blue cards are the best answer to other Blue cards; in this regard, how is the old Legend rule better than the current one?

Jitte being its own best answer is terrible -- it means that decks don't even need to pack equipment hate, just race to draw more Legendary cards than the other player. Mono-black being able to blow up a Jitte with a Jitte is about as dumb as it gets.

It occurs to me that people don't appreciate cards without answers, or cards that remove that aspect from the gameplay. Thing is, if you build a deck to have a lack of answers, precisely because the best answer is to just pack the card yourself, that's another expression of the same problem. At least this keeps decks an actual answer to JTMS/Jitte/other problematic Legendary things honest.

[Admiral_Arzar]

not really the equipment...i would say its the legend rule.

Games just became jitte wars now.

World War J

[Tormod]

[Koby]

If we're going for prevention effects, mise well turn their 7 turn clock into a 20 turn clock: