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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenal View Post
    As someone who has a very skilled AnT player in my playgroup, this certainly isn't how the majority of games go. The vast majority of games involve multiple cantrips to sculpt their hand through multiple turns. If AnT has the nut, sure, it doesn't really matter what you did, but if they don't (and they often don't), then they crutch pretty hard on their cantrips/dig spells. SoL shuts down 12-16 of them.

    Also, AnT doesn't run Thoughtseize maindeck, virtually all builds are going with Cabal Therapy/Gitaxian Probe + Duress package. I've seen a couple builds run 1-2 Thoughtseize in the SB, but even that's not very common.
    I'm glad you know a guy who plays Tendrils. Maybe he can point out to you that when we cast Dark Rituals we are done cantripping and have decided to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregtron View Post
    I'm glad you know a guy who plays Tendrils. Maybe he can point out to you that when we cast Dark Rituals we are done cantripping and have decided to kill you.
    You're cantripping through SoL? Please, tell me more.
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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Dread of Night = enchantment

    Abolish = free Disenchant for White players

    ANT plays DoN, WW plays Abolish. Tech over.

    Besides, any Maverick or Zoo or whatever GW deck plays Thalia/SoL can easily (continue to) play Qasali Pridemage.

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    Spirit= x/1 Creature

    DoN= -1/-1 Effekt. Kill the x/1. Take Some Moms and Thalias while youre at it.

    Board in a card that only stops DoN

    Abolish the DoN, who has already done it's thing.

    Very Techy. wow.
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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenal View Post
    You're cantripping through SoL? Please, tell me more.
    The reply was definitely facetious, referring to someone who thinks vialing in a Brainstorm Hate Bear in response to Rituals is going to do anything for them. Unless this D&T player is also running a Chrome Mox or something to cast it on turn 1, then everyone will be cantripping before it comes into play. And even with the knowledge that this card exists, I really doubt that anyone is going to blind Therapy naming anything other than Thalia in the match.


    Also, I can't believe you guys are arguing with Lemnear about what is or isn't good against storm. You're all lucky Brant Cook is busy today.

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    And as I've pointed out Dread of Night isn't an auto-include for AnT sideboards. Only 5 AnT decks in the entire month of December ran that card in their sideboards. Maybe it'll see increased play once people start running SoL, but let's not talk about Dread of Night being some ubiquitous AnT sideboard card.
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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenal View Post
    And as I've pointed out Dread of Night isn't an auto-include for AnT sideboards. Only 5 AnT decks in the entire month of December ran that card in their sideboards. Maybe it'll see increased play once people start running SoL, but let's not talk about Dread of Night being some ubiquitous AnT sideboard card.
    Storm sideboards are more heavily influenced by metagame shifts than most other decks because the cards that beat us tend to be so narrow, and for a while we needed more Massacres and fewer DoNs to battle UWx decks that play Meddling Mage, True Name, and SFM, because those decks were on the upswing while D&T was on the downswing.

    I'm pretty sure everyone still owns multiple copies of DoN, and would be more than happy to dust them off and re-sleeve them.

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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    I really love how one dude's post about "Vial a 3/1 cat in response to 2nd Cabal Ritual and laugh out diabolically" brought such a pile of nonsense one can't even read it all of a sudden.

    This cat does its job against cantrips. We all know it, thanks for letting us know. It does, however, pretty much nothing when vialed in response to 2nd Cabal Ritual, unless the miser is going to play (PiF and then flashback) the cantrips to find the ToA cause his hand is clogged and he just cannot IT->win. Also, one may still BS on opponents' turns.
    You need to prevent the cantrips, not vial Craw Wurm in response to kill on the stack.

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    Lets run Portent again

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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Speaking of Storm-combo, this card now makes me sad ... this pretty much kills Spanish Inquisition.

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    it just gives you one more turn to deal with it but no more..

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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicLevelCommoner View Post
    Speaking of Storm-combo, this card now makes me sad ... this pretty much kills Spanish Inquisition.
    Spanish inquisition? Isn't that the deck that wins on turn1 70% of time?

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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Quote Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer View Post
    Dafuq is with this forum?
    We're bored at work and want to argue about Magic cards. Same as every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer View Post
    Spanish inquisition? Isn't that the deck that wins on turn1 70% of time?
    It's fast combo akin to Belcher and Tin Fins, but it also relies more heavily on draw spells than other fast combo: they literally have to have an answer to this in hand (even if hardcast and not vialed in) or all their draw 4 spells lose half can't do shit.

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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Quote Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer View Post
    Spanish inquisition? Isn't that the deck that wins on turn1 70% of time?
    It's the storm deck that runs Culling the Weak with the black draw-fours. Someone on MTGS claims to have an experimental version that goldfishes turn 1 70% of the time, but the stable versions seem to be topping out between 35% and 50%. Either way, yeah, it seems like Thalia is just a better hate card against them than SotL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel View Post
    Spirit= x/1 Creature

    DoN= -1/-1 Effekt. Kill the x/1. Take Some Moms and Thalias while youre at it.

    Board in a card that only stops DoN

    Abolish the DoN, who has already done it's thing.

    Very Techy. wow.
    Sorry, but if DoN is even half as ubiquitous as people are making it sound like it's going to be (it's not), White is fucking lousy with answers to enchantments. Abolish is one card in like, 200. I would Leave No Trace the everloving donkey balls out of a board full of Dread of Night and/or whatever other derps, Engineered Plague or whatever. Seal of Cleansing for that whole 'lol i answered ur answer before u played it lol' thing. Aura of Silence, War Priest of Thune, Dispeller's Capsule, Sundering Growth if you're into that whole token making thing… shit mang, I'd even Illumination an enchantment spell. I love bad answers to cards. The Spanish Inquisition Theorem holds true for White Enchantment hate; there's a shitpot of it and you can't just know what it's going to look like or how it'll show up.

    Besides, who are all these bad players that just play into your Dread of Night anyway?
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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post

    Besides, who are all these bad players that just play into your Dread of Night anyway?
    We call them Death and Taxes players.

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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    I know what's SI, it was rhetoric question. That deck is either (a) killed by the hatecat or (b) doesn't care of it. Esp. with SI on the play, the latter seems quite possible.

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    Re: [SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

    Quote Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer View Post
    I know what's SI, it was rhetoric question. That deck is either (a) killed by the hatecat or (b) doesn't care of it. Esp. with SI on the play, the latter seems quite possible.
    My apologies; tone doesn't really come through in text.

    I agree with you, though. Turn 1-2 decks probably won't care about SotL, turn 3 decks will likely have an answer for it from splash-damage for Thalia/Teeg alone, and it will be situationally good against decks that can either find an answer for it (Omnitell) or have a solid backup plan (Elves). It's a fine addition to the Hate Bear suite, but it's not insta-win against anyone.

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    How do you want to play around DoN with SoL ? Not playing it out ? I doubt that'll work out in your favor .

    Ans every "answer" to DoN you gave doesn't stop it from killing your Thalia/SoL before you can destroy it with your preemptive seal or whatever bad (as you would say) answer you play.

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