Commander 2014 thread

[M+1]

I can't recall having seen such a wall of text on a card since Ice Age. I really don't get why the "Can be your Commander" text is necessary at all. If Commander needed planeswalkers, why not simply allow them, either as a generel rule (with a few additions to the ban list), or with a list of "can-be-your-commander"-approved Planeswalkers?

[Barook]

I can't recall having seen such a wall of text on a card since Ice Age. I really don't get why the "Can be your Commander" text is necessary at all. If Commander needed planeswalkers, why not simply allow them, either as a generel rule (with a few additions to the ban list), or with a list of "can-be-your-commander"-approved Planeswalkers?

How would they sell product otherwise?

He seems indeed sweet, although Nic Fit might rather run the 5 mana Garruk, but who knows. I don't think other decks aren't able to run him, especially since Demon Stompy isn't really a thing.

[Darkenslight]

I can't recall having seen such a wall of text on a card since Ice Age. I really don't get why the "Can be your Commander" text is necessary at all. If Commander needed planeswalkers, why not simply allow them, either as a generel rule (with a few additions to the ban list), or with a list of "can-be-your-commander"-approved Planeswalkers?

That Emblem, though! That's gonna cause a few combo decks in Commander.

[Quizzlemanizzle]

New Planeswalker:



I'm really liking the -2 ability to make Demons, even if it does cost 5 to cast.

I was hoping that the non-blue walkers would maybe be legacy playable, at least 1 of them.

As a commander he is probably very strong since you can cast him and make a 5/5 putting 2 threats on the board that the opponent will want to deal with but once he deals with him you can recast him plus commander tax for another demon. So I would look at him as a token factory simply. At some point your opponent will probably not be too interested in killing him however and try to deal with a 5/5 every 2 turns.

As a normal planeswalker in the 100 or 60 I think he is weak.

[Cire]

Green commander plansewalker:

Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury 3GG
Planeswalker
+2 put a 1/1 Elf druid into play that has tap for G
-2 Destroy artifact or enchantment
-6 draw a card for every green creature
{3}

Also. . . maybe a combo for this card?

Reef Worm 3U
When ~ dies puw a 3/3 fish token into play that has "when ~ dies put a 6/6 whale token into play, that has "when ~ dies put a 9/9 kraken token into play.""
0/1

Maybe with recurring nightmare for a really grindy UB deck?

[Quizzlemanizzle]

This guy looks delicious sideboard card against Brainstorm/Ponder/Treasure Cruise and whatever.

What decks can fit him in? UR Delver? Jund? Goblins? Burn

Burn sideboard seems a given.

Maybe too early but this should be one of the TNN/Council Judgements/Toxic Deluge type card of C14.

[iamajellydonut]

This guy

is kick ass. And he's legal in time for the GP.

[Humphrey]

at that cost its unplayable. And besides TC there is nothing of interest to copy

[Quizzlemanizzle]

at that cost its unplayable. And besides TC there is nothing of interest to copy

Uh?

Brainstorm, Entreat the Angels, Lightning Bolt, Abrupt Decay, Hymn to Tourach, Treasure Cruise, Ponder, Swords to Plowshares, Force of Will, Counterspell, Thoughtseize, Duress, Infernal Tutor, Ad Nauseam, Ancestral Visions, Fireblast, Chain Lightning, Gitaxian Probe...

There are tons of interesting spells to copy. Treasure Cruise/Brainstorm alone should make him playable.

Not to mention you can copy your own spells too. Drawing 6 plus a 2/2 for RRU1 seems not too shabby.

[Cire]

Maybe in RB? Cabal Therapy and Surgical Extraction might make good targets?

4 Dark Confidant
4 Dualcaster Mage
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Young Pyromancer

4 Lighting Bolt
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Surgical Extraction
4 Chain Lightning
3 Thought seize
3 Fireblast
2 Duress

4 Cavern of Souls (Human)
16

Idk - just some cards I mashed together off the top of my head.

[Humphrey]

if any of those are really interesting to copy, why nobody plays fork?
CC3 is a lot in legacy, double R makes it worse and a 2/2 body nearly useless

[Quizzlemanizzle]

if any of those are really interesting to copy, why nobody plays fork?
CC3 is a lot in legacy, double R makes it worse and a 2/2 body nearly useless

Being on a body is a huge difference, a 2/2 is not nearly useless. Unlike Fork this guy generates card advantage.

[iamajellydonut]

if any of those are really interesting to copy, why nobody plays fork?

Because Fork doesn't have gams.

[Barook]

Dualcaster Mage is pretty nice and has a good chance of seeing Legacy play. Fireblast (or even a suspended Rift Bolt) into Dualcaster Mage seems decent in a burn deck, although it's hard to say if it isn't a tad bit too expensive for Burn.

Fun fact: You can use it to counter your opponent's Force of Will.

But what the hell have they done with Freyalise? That card is Nissa 1.0 levels of bad.

[H]

First thing I want to just say yes. This guy is definitely not Snapcaster, for all the obvious reasons and I can't figure if this is fringe-playable or more, but this is at the very least interesting. Second, let me just say holy shit, burn. Seriously though, how insane is that UR Delver/Viking Funeral deck going to be?

As a side point, to my Vintage homies, Ancestral + This is the same cost as Snap + Recall, just 1RR instead of 1UU. Of course you have the added "problem" of needing both on the stack at once, but with the way Cruise is going to possibly drive the meta, maybe Recall in the grumper isn't the best place for it? Also, this plus Cruise, obviously better than Snap plus Cruise. This is going to be interesting.

[Quizzlemanizzle]

But what the hell have they done with Freyalise? That card is Nissa 1.0 levels of bad.

No it is not, if it was a littlecheaper I'd jam it into my Elves deck right now, at least in the sideboard.

[Barook]

Entreat the Angels

I like you.

In a format where Brainstorm is more widespread than cancer, he should definitely find some targets. Copying your own TC or opposing TCs is obviously good as well.

Costing one mana more makes him definitely worse than Snapcaster, but you can break even or get a mana advantage when copying an opponent's spell. I can't wait for somebody to copy Ad Nauseam to dig for FoW.

[Quizzlemanizzle]

First thing I want to just say yes. This guy is definitely not Snapcaster, for all the obvious reasons and I can't figure if this is fringe-playable or more, but this is at the very least interesting. Second, let me just say holy shit, burn. Seriously though, how insane is that UR Delver/Viking Funeral deck going to be?

As a side point, to my Vintage homies, Ancestral + This is the same cost as Snap + Recall, just 1RR instead of 1UU. Of course you have the added "problem" of needing both on the stack at once, but with the way Cruise is going to possibly drive the meta, maybe Recall in the grumper isn't the best place for it? Also, this plus Cruise, obviously better than Snap plus Cruise. This is going to be interesting.

He could be better than Snapcaster in legacy.

Snapcaster relies on the graveyard, this card does not. Also while being more expensive than Snapcaster you get the spell for free, this is especially powerful when copying opponents spells.

Dualcaster+Treasure Cruise is a lot better than Snapcaster+Treasure Cruise.

[Ace/Homebrew]

Everyone should come to terms with NONE of these planeswalkers being Legacy playable. I realize asking the internet to be reasonable is a losing battle, but none of them are going to make waves in Legacy if Wizards is trying to keep them from making waves in Commander.

And Dualcaster costs too much to be played in Burn. And copying Entreat the Angels with it is a terrible idea...

[Lemnear]

There are tons of interesting spells to copy. Treasure Cruise/Brainstorm alone should make him playable.

People said the same about Spirit of the Labyrinth and I can't see it putting up serious numbers despite being one mana cheaper than this Snapcaster variant.