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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

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    Hi Narset!
    I am surprised her starting loyalty is so high, considering her +1 and -2 both generate card advantage.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

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    Narset Transcendent
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    +1: Look at the top card of your library. If it's a noncreature, nonland card, you may reveal it and put it into your hand.
    -2: When you cast your next instant or sorcery spell from your hand this turn, it gains rebound.
    -9: You get an emblem with "Your opponents can't cast noncreature spells."
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    This one is really good and comes with 6 fucking Loyalty! Carddraw and doubling Brainstorms/Plows/Judgements on demand with an Ultimate that locks opponents out of the game while you dominate the Board with Plows and Terminus? Sounds valid.
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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    Holy 6 loyalty, Batman!

    Not bad, not bad. 6 starting loyalty is... kiiiind of like self-protecting on an empty board? She's not a pushover, I mean; 7 loyalty with a means to draw an answer to threats feels like 'self-protection' to me.

    Ultimate is duuuuumb. Doubling Season/Narset combo!? Bant Lockdown?! Bant Stax??! Play that shit

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread



    Looks good in Elves! because GSZ/NO/much mana.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    Narset seems pretty powerful, especially with the amount of dumb library manipulation we have in Legacy (Brainstorm and Top say "Hi!").

    While she isn't Jace's powerlevel, could she complement him in certain decks?

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    She can't defend herself. But 7 loyalties can do this trick. I guess she will see come play in control as 1 or 2 off.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    Barook and Lemnear like a new card, this is a sign of the end times surely.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    Narset is going in the cube, that's for sure.
    4cmc and 6 loyalty is certainly a base worth considering for Legacy, and even more so considering her non-ultimate abilities are already relevant in Miracles shell.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Narset seems pretty powerful, especially with the amount of dumb library manipulation we have in Legacy (Brainstorm and Top say "Hi!").

    While she isn't Jace's powerlevel, could she complement him in certain decks?
    +1 card advantage comparing to +2 no card advantage of Jace to reach the ultimate. Also, the ultimate comes faster for Narset.
    I guess she might be played (only in a removal heavy deck i guess so you can keep the board clean while your opponent can't cast non creature spells).

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    Yeah but Sidisi 2.0 can self-sacrifice, so you've got Johnny combo fest going on with, like, all kinds of shit. Athreos? Phyrexian Reclamation? Err... Nim Deathmantle? :/ Anything that can play with the graveyard and wouldn't mind some way to recur a tutor without also having to assemble a tertiary sacrifice outlet, I suppose. It turns any number of 3-card combos involving creature recursion into 2-card combos, and that is a good thing. (depending on who you ask) ....
    If you clone new Sidisi, can the clone exploit the old one before the legend thing happens?

    The only thing that really "makes sense" to me is Rooftop Storm + Sidisi jank piles that build into Gravespawn Sovereign and Havengul Lich to build a branching chain of Sidisi effects.

    IMO the lack of self-protection makes Narset a 'lose more' card.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    Aside from limited, one of the more interesting aspects of Exploit is how it works in Standard with Yasova Dragonclaw in Sultai. But that's limited to Standard since it costs a bazillion mana to pull off.

    @rufus: Nope, that doesn't work. The legend rule is state-based, while Exploit is triggered (keyword: "when") and goes on the stack.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Aside from limited, one of the more interesting aspects of Exploit is how it works in Standard with Yasova Dragonclaw in Sultai. But that's limited to Standard since it costs a bazillion mana to pull off.

    @rufus: Nope, that doesn't work. The legend rule is state-based, while Exploit is triggered (keyword: "when") and goes on the stack.
    I guess if there is a 1-2 CC exploit card then it might go well with Treason effects in standard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    I guess if there is a 1-2 CC exploit card then it might go well with Treason effects in standard?
    I can't think of a desirable effect in that cost range since they would probably overcost it to hell and back.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    6 loyalty seems to yell PUSH to me. I mean, her abilities are OK to maybe good, so it looks to me like they just kept upping her Loyalty until the card became playable.

    Maybe suitable for Modern, but I'm not even sure if she is too much better than Jace, Architect of Thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    I guess if there is a 1-2 CC exploit card then it might go well with Treason effects in standard?
    Bazaar Trader didn't make treason effects playable. Do we really expect an exploit card to be able to?

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    Get this one early, mates.
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    Narset looks ok. Pretty sure it doesn't beat out Jace for slots in most existing decks, but I could see it being useful in Gold Digger that is heavily spell and removal reliant. Rebound on DTT, sure why not?

    Too bad the rebound ability happens during mainphase or it'd be really fun to rebound Entreat the Angels.

    Looks better for Modern honestly where Jace isn't an option.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Looks good in Elves! because GSZ/NO/much mana.
    Does "fights" include creature combat? Because if so that thing is just winning limited.

    Narset already sold out at $40 on SCG, lol.

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    Re: [DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bosque View Post
    Narset looks ok. Pretty sure it doesn't beat out Jace for slots in most existing decks, but I could see it being useful in Gold Digger that is heavily spell and removal reliant. Rebound on DTT, sure why not?

    Too bad the rebound ability happens during mainphase or it'd be really fun to rebound Entreat the Angels.

    Looks better for Modern honestly where Jace isn't an option.
    Modern spells are much weaker than Legacy.

    It's probably going to be pretty expensive, since it should go straight into Standard Jeskai variants with lots of spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Narset seems pretty powerful, especially with the amount of dumb library manipulation we have in Legacy (Brainstorm and Top say "Hi!").

    While she isn't Jace's powerlevel, could she complement him in certain decks?
    She doesn't protect herself and her ultimate doesn't outright win the game.

    She won't be good enough for Legacy even at 4cc.

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