View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Yes, I think there will be a shift from Omnitell to Sneaky Show for sure.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I'm not sure this is even good enough, but will Upheaval see any play with Vise? Seems expensive but cool...
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    I pity those who planned the Seattle trip using Omni-tell. If you played at local GPT and you lost to Omni-tell yet you really want to go to that Legacy GP, considered yourself cheated.

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    Nice ban and unban for Legacy.. i'm curious for what happend with grixis now.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by twndomn View Post
    I pity those who planned the Seattle trip using Omni-tell. If you played at local GPT and you lost to Omni-tell yet you really want to go to that Legacy GP, considered yourself cheated.
    It's not all that hard to convert UR Omnitell to Sneaky Show, and that deck is going to be pretty good most likely.
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    Spikes are supposed to enjoy winning by leveraging their talents, but this card can't fetch the most SKILL INTENSIVE card in all of Magic?

    Clearly aimed at Modern plebs, not gonna be a pillar of our format.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Boooo I wish they didn't ban Dig Through Time

    I have signed foil play set that I'll never get to use outside of standard now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral_Arzar View Post
    It's not all that hard to convert UR Omnitell to Sneaky Show, and that deck is going to be pretty good most likely.
    My thoughts as well - except the SnT player just can't win on the stack no matter what you have in your hand when playing Omni (vs Sneak and Show).

    That was the really frustrating part about playing against DTT. It doesn't care about Ashen Rider or other hate cards, it would just dig on the stack and win regardless. So much less fun...

    Banning was very deserved but I'm still slightly surprised. Either way, very happy with this change.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by twndomn View Post
    I pity those who planned the Seattle trip using Omni-tell. If you played at local GPT and you lost to Omni-tell yet you really want to go to that Legacy GP, considered yourself cheated.


    I don't feel that bad. Anybody rocking OmniTell had to have seen this ban coming. Shiet, anybody rocking DTT in general had to know. Didn't it feel dirty to resolve that card? It's Just Not Right.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by danyul View Post


    I don't feel that bad. Anybody rocking OmniTell had to have seen this ban coming. Shiet, anybody rocking DTT in general had to know. Didn't it feel dirty to resolve that card? It's Just Not Right.
    Nah, it's just as good as all the other awesome spells in legacy

    People find something different to gripe about every year.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobmans View Post
    Fack Yeah!!!! DTT banned. Time to pull my cards out of the dust.
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    Dig is gone! So I can play this instead of nic fit again!
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    Discussion time!

    Better now with Dig banned?
    Aaaand this is my problem with the change.

    http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...one-2005-03-04

    "Unacceptable. The worst thing that could happen, in our eyes, would be for people to come back to Standard, full of hope and under the impression that Affinity was dead, only to lose to a weaker-but-still-potent Affinity deck in Round 1 of Regionals."

    I miss this type of reasonable thinking and justification. Now they can't even be bothered to give the explanation its own article. Unless you're playing Elves and are directly impacted by the presence of OmniTell, there's nothing to get excited about. It'll be the same format you saw last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will_L View Post
    Nah, it's just as good as all the other awesome spells in legacy

    People find something different to gripe about every year.
    Do you mean Dig through time?

    DTT was degenerate... there's no reason you should stare at multiple hate cards in your hand and have the OmniTell player just combo off with whatever you played on the stack. Such nonsense that I really will not miss at all (though, I do feel bad for those players who invested into DTT based decks, since obviously they won't be as strong going forward).

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    As a Lands player, I am fairly fucking excited.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I'm pretty excited to not have to play Slaughter Games as a janky answer to Omnitell anymore. My sideboard can finally go back to (somewhat) normal!
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    I mean, if you're going to play as 61st card, the card should cost over $100 I think.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    Aaaand this is my problem with the change.

    http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...one-2005-03-04

    "Unacceptable. The worst thing that could happen, in our eyes, would be for people to come back to Standard, full of hope and under the impression that Affinity was dead, only to lose to a weaker-but-still-potent Affinity deck in Round 1 of Regionals."

    I miss this type of reasonable thinking and justification. Now they can't even be bothered to give the explanation its own article. Unless you're playing Elves and are directly impacted by the presence of OmniTell, there's nothing to get excited about. It'll be the same format you saw last week.
    I see what you're saying, but it's anything but the same format. It has more in common with the format thirteen months ago than it does with the format thirteen days ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    Unless you're playing Elves and are directly impacted by the presence of OmniTell, there's nothing to get excited about. It'll be the same format you saw last week.
    No... For example, non-blue GBx decks that proactively interact via discard were severely hampered by dig through times presence in the format in all sorts of decks.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    As a Lands player, I am fairly fucking excited.
    As a Lands player, I'm actually not. Omni was easy postboard, Sneak will be harder especially considering they bring Blood Moon. However, as an "everything else I play" player, I'm pretty excited.
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    Since playing against Spiral Tide provides a lot fun for both players is something only someone who's not had sex for quite a while could enjoy, I pull out GW Maverick.
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    Spikes are supposed to enjoy winning by leveraging their talents, but this card can't fetch the most SKILL INTENSIVE card in all of Magic?

    Clearly aimed at Modern plebs, not gonna be a pillar of our format.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jain_Mor View Post
    No... For example, non-blue GBx decks that proactively interact via discard were severely hampered by dig through times presence in the format in all sorts of decks.
    Nic-Fit, Jund, Rock, and Maverick were pet decks before Dig Through Time and they'll continue to be pet decks after it's gone.

    And it's fine that they're pet decks. I fukken love pet decks. But it doesn't change the fact that they're hampered by far more than just Dig Through Time. If you're happy with such a superficial change, great, but don't be all bummed out when you run into the same walls as before.
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    tits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    Nic-Fit, Jund, Rock, and Maverick were pet decks before Dig Through Time and they'll continue to be pet decks after it's gone.

    And it's fine that they're pet decks. I fukken love pet decks. But it doesn't change the fact that they're hampered by far more than just Dig Through Time. If you're happy with such a superficial change, great, but don't be all bummed out when you run into the same walls as before.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by twndomn View Post
    I pity those who planned the Seattle trip using Omni-tell. If you played at local GPT and you lost to Omni-tell yet you really want to go to that Legacy GP, considered yourself cheated.
    All of those players still have a playable legacy deck, it is called omni-tell. It is tier 2 like a lot of legacy decks.

    And I always considered myself cheated when I lost to DTT, GPT or no, so...

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    Black Vise is unbanned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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