Since omni is all but out of the picture is it safe to run 2 spell snare in the main? It was only bad against omni and now hymns are going to be more popular, along with more graveyard hate in boards
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Yes I'm thinking of going to a similar configuration, trouble is, Spell Snare doesn't hit anything in Sneak and Show (likely best Show and Tell deck) either.Originally Posted by jim111589
That's true but I think it's going to revert and not alot people are going to go back to sneak other then the dedicated SnT players and that means DnT will get bigger
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So would it be a thing to run a few copies of vice in the side to help against combo? Drop it early and just stifle/waste/pierce them out of the game? Maybe for the white based control decks that use rip it could be sided in for a goose or goyf
I'm definitely interested in seeing how Black Vise fits into Legacy, possibly in a delver shell, but mathematically it doesn't make sense to play it instead of delver on turn 1, right? Maybe its better to play it instead of goose.
EDIT: Meaning, its better to lead with vise and follow up with goose. not instead of goose.
hopefully there will be a daze, stasis, boomerage, velkaden deck somewhere.
Divert didn't seem that great when I tried it. How many were you running?
nah i'm on the other side.
Divert mainly. I play both this and bug and I'm leaning more tward this. Diverting a decay to thier own goyf can be game ending
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not as nasty as a hymn.
You have faced a RUG Pilot playing diverts? Do you know how many he was playing?
I just prefer a card like Misdirection to Divert - you don't need to leave mana up and its unconditional (For example, Ancestral visions resolving on upkeep means Divert doesn't do anything, they just pay), and ends up being a 2 for 2 (if you Mis'D a removal spell to their own creature) or 2 for 3 (Mis'D Hymn or Visions) trade.
no idea man...i just got shot once and i couldn't recover.
I guess a 3 for 1 will do that to a guylike Notion Thieving a brainstorm activation
Well more hymns would be the reason to run more MD snares
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How do you guys think Dismember is positioned at this point? I was running 2 in the main, mostly to handle Gurmag Angler, and the occasional Tasigur. With the recent banning, I think we can reasonably expect Grixis to become much less popular, so should I consider running Forked Bolt instead of Dismember?
Do you guys think esper/deathblade will return?
I just hate it that we might see more TNN again if stoneblade comes back from the dead.
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I posted my thoughts on Dismember a few posts before yours:
Honestly I think Deathblade is a favorable match up. As far as TNN is concerned, they still need to get 3 mana against the stifle / waste deck and you should have pyroblasts post board. If they don't have an equipment resolved yet, TNN is not game over even if it resolves. 8/12 creatures can attack into an opposing TNN.
Has anyone tried running tarfire / seal of fire in the 2 flex spots. Is forked bolt better to kill multiple x/1's or is pumping a goyf better?
I'm expecting a lot of Elves/DnT/Infect in my local meta post Dig ban. With that in mind, I'd say Forked Bolt is going to be far more useful than an extra +1/+1 on a goyf.
Someone on this board tried tarfires a while back, I forget what the results were. What I will say is, the most 2 for 1's I've gotten off my Forked Bolts are vs delver / pyromancer decks. Its hard to get a 2 for 1 vs taxes, since Mom is kill on sight and means you would have let a thalia stick around for a couple turns or something (wait until they play another x/1). Elves they have a lot of bounce tricks and whatnot but killing a dryad arbor and something is a real blowout. Growing the goyf is important vs Grixis decks but I've been sticking by Forked Bolts and thats where im gonna stay.
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