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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    I hope you understood that it was a joke , but to be clear - yes, Thespian's Stage and Vampire Hexmage are much much much much much much better and more efficient options

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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    Still think a nice rehearsed play is the best way to entertain our dark Mistress.
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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    So, all of Commander 2015 has been revealed. Wretched Confluence costs 5 mana and is most likely useless in legacy (maybe useful in Nic Fit). The only two cards that look interesting for legacy, is Mizzix's Mastery, the G/B legend and - maybe - the zombie dragon.

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    I also believe Fiery Confluence will see occasional play (at least as much as Sudden Demise, so not a lot... but some).

    It should have been an instant, but whatever.
    I'm excited to try it in Eight Moon Stompy against D&T. That matchup is always a nightmare.

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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    Fortunately, black still has yet to be spoiled. So we at least have a few more days to hang onto the delicious feel of "hope" before we get our dreams shattered.
    It's shit.

    Edit: Whole set spoiled. Basically entirely shit from an Eternal perspective. I don't think there's a single fringe-playable Legacy card other than Mizzix's Mastery and Sandstone Oracle.
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    tits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    It's shit.

    Edit: Whole set spoiled. Basically entirely shit from an Eternal perspective. I don't think there's a single fringe-playable Legacy card other than Mizzix's Mastery and Sandstone Oracle.
    The B/G legend is powerful. I'm not sure it automatically slots into a tier 1-deck (Shardless BUG?) like True-Name did, but it might find a home in fringe-decks, especially one that plays Green Sun's Zenith. Maybe Nic Fit?

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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    Three cards that may be potentially playable isn't bad out of a 56 card set.

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    I will remember you all said this when I rock all y'all's hineys with Magus of the Wheel.
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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    It's shit.

    Edit: Whole set spoiled. Basically entirely shit from an Eternal perspective. I don't think there's a single fringe-playable Legacy card other than Mizzix's Mastery and Sandstone Oracle.
    Well, the Black one is still better than the White one though (not saying much though).

    Really these are all EDH cards, which, I mean, this is a set made for that though, so, I can't really be all that upset...
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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Really these are all EDH cards, which, I mean, this is a set made for that though, so, I can't really be all that upset...
    Quoted for truth.

    Wizards also admitted a mistake and has shown they learned from it:
    Quote Originally Posted by Wizards Daily MTG article
    Looking back at it, True-Name Nemesis was a mistake, and not just because it is so annoying to play against in Legacy. The first reason is that the card just isn't that good in multiplayer. If it was "gains protection from every opponent except one," then it would be a more appropriate card for a product like this that is aimed at Commander players and not meant as a hard plant for Legacy. At the same time, we never really tested True-Name Nemesis in a format where it was very good—so we underestimated not only how strong it was (we knew it would be powerful), but how unfun it was. Whenever someone cast the card, they did it in a very different scenario than it would see in most of its realistic real-world play.
    If the choice was between 'no Legacy playables' and 'another TNN mistake', which would you choose?

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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    For me only 3 cards for (more or less) "pet" Decks.

    Zombiedragon - can find a home in "Walking Dead "
    Meren - maybe will find a way in the various Nic Fit builds
    Centaur - maybe 1off for Sylvan Plug (someone will also test it in Aggro Loam or Lands)

    Sadly no clear Eternal Card so far, but i am also glad we don't get the next TNN
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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Really these are all EDH cards, which, I mean, this is a set made for that though, so, I can't really be all that upset...


    The only thing that pisses me off is how uninspired RW as a whole is. Fuck the combat focus - why not awesome hatebears with combat stats? I'm suprised they didn't shit out "Yet another Lightning Helix-effect attached to an expensive card" ™.

    BG got the playable cards (Meren, maybe the Centaur for Loam decks) as predicted, Mizzix's Mastery and Magus of the Wheel might be things. I like Karlov, but can't see a Legacy-competitive shell that can properly utilize him.

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    Because there's nothing better than killing your opponent twice. If only there were no easier way to get those counters off that pesky dark depths.
    I fixed that for you! ;P

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    Heh. Humor and tone just don't work on these threads. Folks from so many countries and cultures clouds it even more. Cire was being silly. I responded with snark because I was not sure if he was serious. Joven, you are correct, but we were just fooling around with nerdy humor.
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    I'm a little intrigued by Corpse Augur. Sure 3B is a lot for legacy, but that ability can do stupid things.

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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    Why did they put in Brainstorm and Preordain but not Serum Visions? One of those needed the reprint more than the others.
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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Quoted for truth.

    Wizards also admitted a mistake and has shown they learned from it:

    ** wizards quote about TNN being mistake **

    If the choice was between 'no Legacy playables' and 'another TNN mistake', which would you choose?
    This is what I was thinking as I kept reading the spoilers, and this confirms it -- they knew they goofed with True-Name Nemesis, so they eased off with this run.

    I find it a *little* bit hard to swallow that they didn't "get" how frustrating a card like TNN would be in any format that it was legal in. Like, how hard is it to figure it out -- the game is built on the predication of being able to actually interact, but did they seriously sit around the office like "Eternal players will just happily maindeck Golgari Charm into their $4000 5-color manabases and life will continue, hrrnda hrrnda hrrnda"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Heh. Humor and tone just don't work on these threads. Folks from so many countries and cultures clouds it even more. Cire was being silly. I responded with snark because I was not sure if he was serious. Joven, you are correct, but we were just fooling around with nerdy humor.
    I'm from France and your original post made me laugh :)
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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    Why did they put in Brainstorm and Preordain but not Serum Visions? One of those needed the reprint more than the others.
    Perhaps they don't want the non-EDH crowd hoarding these up. While the previous Commander were a success, it kinda pushed out the EDH/casual crowd because of all the eternal playables on them. I remember it was next to impossible to get a hold of the True Name Nemesis decks. The mono red and mono white were hard to find as well.
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    Re: [COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

    I think Magus could be the difference between Big Red being frustratingly close to good, and actually being good. Namely because after you crap out 7 cards by T2, one of those may as well be a "draw 7" so you can actually finish the game.
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