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    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    Well fuck. Might be time to put Grixis down in Modern. This thing looks fit to stomp. Also I think we are going to have to put aside the idea of Colourless Eldrazi, Black is just too potent not to use.
    I'd go UB for Ruination Guide and counterspells.

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkenslight View Post
    I'd go UB for Ruination Guide and counterspells.
    Isn't Ruination Guide a bit underpowered for Legacy-standards? I mean, sure, you get to pump your other Eldrazis, but is that really significant when the card does almost nothing on its own?

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    I would say that pumping a 1/1 is a greater gain than pumping a 5/5 or a 6/8. Ruination Guide looks underwhelming and strangely out of color.
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    Maybe Chrome Mox would be better if you imprint it with colorless....
    I don't think Chrome Mox will produce any mana if you imprint a devoid card.

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    I don't think Chrome Mox will produce any mana if you imprint a devoid card.
    They just need to make the Commander variant that says "Add one mana of any of the imprinted card's color identity colors to your mana pool." /kappa
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    Do we need more Delver food?



    1. Cavern naming Human gives you: Delver, YP, Snapcaster, and Stormchaser.
    2. Flying, one prow trigger can block-kill a 3/2 flying delver and survives.
    3. One prow trigger can screw a Bolt.
    4. Chalice on One doesn't stop it.

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    1. Cavern naming Human gives you: Delver, YP, Snapcaster, and Stormchaser.
    You forgot swiftspear.

    2. Flying, one prow trigger can block-kill a 3/2 flying delver and survives.
    3. One prow trigger can screw a Bolt.
    Unless you're also getting value for the spells you're casting (i.e. cantripping, or bolting a second creature), those are both 1 for 1 trades, which is not so impressive, really. I wonder if this started as a 2/3 or 1/4 and got whacked with a nerfbat in testing.

    4. Chalice on One doesn't stop it.
    And it pitches to FoW!

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if that card ends up playable. If not legacy, at least modern.

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    Should be a nice looking foil too.

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    Quote Originally Posted by twndomn View Post
    1. Cavern naming Human gives you: Delver, YP, Snapcaster, and Stormchaser.
    Cavern can't be used to play other spells or pay for Daze's alternate cost, though.

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    It's fine if it's still just a 1:1 trade with Delver or Bolt because that's still a fair tempo play. One of the advantages of Guys and Burn Spells is typically their ability to correctly answer Who's The Beatdown and make sure the opponent has a harder time playing *their* role. If my opp thought swinging into this guy was stronk aggro I'd be way too happy to block and cast Le Instant.

    It's a little discouraging to see so many cards with Prowess making my Kiln Fiends look worse than they already are, but meh, this guy is cool.
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    I don't think Chrome Mox will produce any mana if you imprint a devoid card.
    You are correct.
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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    Warping Wail 1C
    Instant (U)
    Choose one -
    Exile target creature with power or toughness 1 or less.
    Counter target sorcery spell.
    Put a 1/1 colorless Eldrazi Scion creature token onto the battlefield. It has "Sacrifice this creature: Add C to your mana pool."

    Man . . . the modern eldrazi deck will look. . . interesting. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Warping Wail 1C
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    Man . . . the modern eldrazi deck will look. . . interesting. . .
    That's - at worst - a sideboard card in legacy. There are so many cards it hits, and you can play it turn 1 off a sol land.

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread



    Damn this is so nice. Better in vintage than Legacy, but 1C to exile a mana DRS/arbor/elf, counter a SnT/infernal tutor/terminus , or play a drone (well this is useless but w/e) is still pretty decent in legacy too.

    EDIT: actually it can check for thoughness too? So it exile Wild Pyro, dark confidants, thalias etc...

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    Yet another really good creature for the blue cantrip shell?

    What does Wizards have against every other color in the game?

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post


    Damn this is so nice. Better in vintage than Legacy, but 1C to exile a mana DRS/arbor/elf, counter a SnT/infernal tutor/terminus , or play a drone (well this is useless but w/e) is still pretty decent in legacy too.

    EDIT: actually it can check for thoughness too? So it exile Wild Pyro, dark confidants, thalias etc...
    yeah when I read it . . . i thought it only checked for thoughness. . . . nope . . . instead. . . yeah I think this might be a legacy card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post
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    Damn this is so nice. Better in vintage than Legacy, but 1C to exile a mana DRS/arbor/elf, counter a SnT/infernal tutor/terminus , or play a drone (well this is useless but w/e) is still pretty decent in legacy too.

    EDIT: actually it can check for thoughness too? So it exile Wild Pyro, dark confidants, thalias etc...
    Hey, the drone kills Bridge from Below and lets you bank mana EoT. It hits a long list of creatures and spells that are relevant in legacy.

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    Re: [OGW] Oath of the Gatewatch spoilers thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    yeah when I read it . . . i thought it only checked for thoughness. . . . nope . . . instead. . . yeah I think this might be a legacy card.
    I do not disagree, but for what decks? I'm thinking D&T, MUD, and 12Post can reliably make a colorless mana turn 2. Do they want this? MUD might?

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    Holy shit, Warping Wail is good. Kills so many relevant Legacy creatures and dodges MoM's protection.

    Also pretty sweet to hand out a non-Blue counter to EDH decks; lots of bomby Sorceries in that format and it's nice to have more ability to police them.

    Outstanding card...and at Uncommon to boot!

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