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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by darkgh0st View Post
    When is World Breaker relevant (which MUs)? Does it help very much vs Blood Moon?
    Mainly control/midrange. And as an out to Ensnaring Bridge and other problematic permanents.

    The only Blood Moon I faced today was in the finals G3 when my opponent was dead on board. All is Dust is more reliable as a Moon killer IF you hit the 7 mana because World Breaker requires a Lotus Petal to be cast under BM. Don't expect it to be a BM killer in this particular setup. All is Dust is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    I disagree on All is Dust. While it can't get rid of Ensnaring Bridge and is way worse vs Pyromancer tokens, it's your best bet to win games vs control or other grindy decks. I had 0 All is Dusts countered today (IIRC) because I either took them with TKS or they ran out of counters due to other stuff.

    3x AiD is what you want and definitely the right number. E.g. G2 and G3 of the finals were won of the back of All is Dust wiping out his Mentor army before going ham on his life totals. And my Miracles opponent was certainly no push-over, he was a very strong player.
    Wouldn't Ratchet Bomb have killed the mentor tokens just as well?

    I guess maybe the question that is perhaps leading to our disagreement is: in what specific matchups do you actually side in AiD? I consider Bomb to be part of my plan against D+T and Knight of the Reliquary decks, for instance, but in my testing, I can never get AiD through multiple Wastelands/Ports.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by iostream View Post
    Wouldn't Ratchet Bomb have killed the mentor tokens just as well?

    I guess maybe the question that is perhaps leading to our disagreement is: in what specific matchups do you actually side in AiD? I consider Bomb to be part of my plan against D+T and Knight of the Reliquary decks, for instance, but in my testing, I can never get AiD through multiple Wastelands/Ports.
    Bomb kills the source of the tokens, Mentor, as well. Otherwise, they would continue to shit out more tokens the turns after. That's why AiD is vastly superior against Mentor. Tabula rasa.

    All is Dust is definitely a must vs Miracles and Shardless post-board. I sometimes use it as PW removal, too, like killing a Liliana in the Challenge. For other matches, I need to reevaluate it for the new list.

    In older lists, I've successfully swept the board against KotR decks, though. It depends alot on their draw, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Mainly control/midrange. And as an out to Ensnaring Bridge and other problematic permanents.

    The only Blood Moon I faced today was in the finals G3 when my opponent was dead on board. All is Dust is more reliable as a Moon killer IF you hit the 7 mana because World Breaker requires a Lotus Petal to be cast under BM. Don't expect it to be a BM killer in this particular setup. All is Dust is.
    Would NUlamog better suit this slot? Needing 3 extra mana but not needing a color.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by darkgh0st View Post
    Would NUlamog better suit this slot? Needing 3 extra mana but not needing a color.
    NUlamog is uncastable unless you enter Magical Christmasland. 7 mana for World Breaker is the threshold that is still acceptable. Colored mana is hardly the problem with my current version. 9 green sources (except under Blood Moon) are plenty for the time you can cast Breaker.

    I'm very satisfied with the current list and wouldn't change a single card. Everything pulled its weight at some point in the tournament.

    Edit: For those interested, both Reanimator match-ups were streamed:

    https://www.twitch.tv/efil4zaknupome/v/59561609

    First match starts at 4:00:10, semi finals at 7:26:00.

    Edit #2: Watching the games now with outside commentary, I did kind of a subpar job against Grave Titan. What the hell was I thinking? Even with tons of mana for 3 activations incoming.
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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand won!
    Congratz! Great Run!

    Tested the same Main the last Days and it worked very good so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by metronome2charisma View Post
    Ratchet bomb works its just a little slow, and for moat its really slow, I haven't played all is dust but i might give it a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iostream View Post
    All is Dust is basically uncastable in matchups where they disrupt your mana at all, such as D+T or Delver, or in matchups where you need to be able to cast it quickly, such as Elves or TES (when they go for Goblins). Ratchet Bomb evades these restrictions, but it is much weaker and much slower. Neither card is likely to be able to kill a Moat. Ratchet Bomb can't because it gives the Miracles pilot forever-and-a-half to find an answer. All is Dust won't, because any good pilot can see it coming from a mile away and will counter it easily. Even soft countermagic will do the job because it is so darn expensive. I still like Ratchet Bomb better, however. But perhaps a split would be appropriate.

    Honestly, both cards are pretty bad, and one major source of my discontent with the development of the deck has been trying to search for reasonable alternatives. You need some kind of effect like it in the 75, though.
    I run a slightly different Side than Barook:

    SB: 4 Leyline of the Void
    SB: 2 All Is Dust
    SB: 2 Ratchet Bomb
    SB: 2 Wastes
    SB: 2 Thorn of Amethyst
    SB: 1 Dismember
    SB: 1 Warping Wail
    SB: 1 World Breaker

    Still give bomb a chance, simply because it can be faster than All is Dust sometimes and can be triggert with Reshaper. While Bomb can shine vs Tokens (TES/ANT/Belcher), All is Dust is key vs Midrange and Control: Shardless/Miracle. So both are not bad and work well together, sometimes they overlap sometimes one is stronger.

    I disagree that All is Dust is uncastable vs DnT, my score is 70:30 regardless the Eldrazi Version i play, DnT can be a nightmare, but only if the have nut draws with Vial and heavy Mana Disruption (and are on the play). I cast All is Dust often enough and wiped the field. Against Elves you need more Time/Disruption, Chalice + Wail for example. With Petal All is Dust can happen Turn 3 if you are lucky, so its not "that slow" with a combination of Eldrazi/Sollands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    I disagree on All is Dust. While it can't get rid of Ensnaring Bridge and is way worse vs Pyromancer tokens, it's your best bet to win games vs control or other grindy decks. I had 0 All is Dusts countered today (IIRC) because I either took them with TKS or they ran out of counters due to other stuff.

    3x AiD is what you want and definitely the right number. E.g. G2 and G3 of the finals were won of the back of All is Dust wiping out his Mentor army before going ham on his life totals. And my Miracles opponent was certainly no push-over, he was a very strong player.
    Agree that All is Dust is a very good card and bonkers vs miracles. Still not sold about the 3rd Copy, but i basically included the card in every Eldrazi shell i tested. Its even better if you have a stable manabasis like the current Version (Barooks Build) with Mishra over Wasteland, only 2 Cities (to avoid self-landkills) and Petals for Speed. All is Dust simply gets weaker if you also play a (more common) greedy Manabasis with Wastelands and more Cities. It is still doable, but a harder task - thats why some players struggled with All is Dust in the past.

    Trust me (and of course Barook), you will need that card vs Miracle after G1 (and don't mix it with Thorns - its a trap)
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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Same decklist as before

    Overall, I'm 18-2 with the list now (I think a 20-0 would have been possible if played better/different lines were taken). I think we're done brewing, everybody go home. Displacer/Matter Reshaper is where it's at.

    If there's interested, I could record the replays of the matches and upload them on Youtube later. Probably not before next weekend, though, as I have work to do and Dark Souls 3 is coming up.
    Awesome Barook! Definitely interested in the matches.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Riehu View Post
    Awesome Barook! Definitely interested in the matches.
    Recording matches is up to the air because MTGO is a "quality" program. It doesn't let me access any matches aside from the finals right now.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    NUlamog is uncastable unless you enter Magical Christmasland. 7 mana for World Breaker is the threshold that is still acceptable. Colored mana is hardly the problem with my current version. 9 green sources (except under Blood Moon) are plenty for the time you can cast Breaker.

    I'm very satisfied with the current list and wouldn't change a single card. Everything pulled its weight at some point in the tournament.

    Edit: For those interested, both Reanimator match-ups were streamed:

    https://www.twitch.tv/efil4zaknupome/v/59561609

    First match starts at 4:00:10, semi finals at 7:26:00.

    Edit #2: Watching the games now with outside commentary, I did kind of a subpar job against Grave Titan. What the hell was I thinking? Even with tons of mana for 3 activations incoming.
    Just finished watching the reanimator matchup, my god man that was a savage top deck at the end with Displacer to get back your TKS and take out his Ashen Rider Great job on the tournament and congrats!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iostream View Post
    Certainly!

    2 Eldrazi Displacer
    4 Eldrazi Mimic
    4 Endless One
    4 Matter Reshaper
    1 Phyrexian Metamorph
    4 Thought-Knot Seer
    4 Reality Smasher

    4 Chalice of the Void
    2 Umezawa's Jitte
    2 Lotus Petal

    2 Warping Wail
    2 Dismember

    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Cavern of Souls
    3 City of Traitors
    4 Eldrazi Temple
    3 Eye of Ugin
    2 Karakas
    4 Mishra's Factory
    1 Tendo Ice Bridge

    Sideboard

    2 Pithing Needle
    2 Ratchet Bomb
    2 Trinisphere
    1 Sword of Feast and Famine
    1 Sword of Fire and Ice
    2 Spatial Contortion
    1 Warping Wail
    4 Leyline of the Void

    9 sources for the two Displacers seemed more or less adequate. As I expected, I occasionally had them stuck in hand due to lack of mana, but they are not the best early play anyway. It is much better to be able to play it last, when you already have a board presence, to falter some of their creatures in order to provide some reach. In several games, Displacer was used in this fashion - uncastable early, game winning once the white source was found.

    My ideas about the sideboard are basically that none of the sweepers are any good; your plan in the grindy matchups is to be the aggressor, don't over-sideboard, and don't keep hands that lack serious aggressive potential. Mishra's Factory plays an important role in this plan. I beat D+T in this fashion during the tournament.

    The only card that seemed kind of bad was Pithing Needle. It never does enough versus the equipment decks; I suspect one might just want to run the much narrower Null Rod and hope to fade the Lands matchup. Nothing I have tried has ever fixed that matchup anyway.
    Congrats to you too! I'd like to hear a bit more about the SB plan with your SB.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    I've been playing colorless version for the past 3 leagues going 4-1, 5-0 and 4-1. The first 4-1 should have been 5-0 most likely as I made a big mistake against RUG delver losing my Mishra to Nimble Mongoose.

    League mono 4-1
    BUG delver 2-0
    Food Chain Wasteland MVP to slow down
    RUG delver 1-2
    Shardless 2-1 All is dust MVP
    Food Chain 2-1

    League mono 5-0

    Miracles 2-0
    UWRG Delver 2-1
    Mirror 2-0
    Epic Storm 2-1
    Burn 2-0

    League mono 4-1

    RUG 2-1
    Elves 0-2
    Painter 2-1
    Burn 2-1
    UWB Reanimator 2-0


    4 Endless One
    4 Matter Reshaper
    4 Eldrazi Mimic
    4 Reality Smasher
    4 Thought-Knot Seer
    2 Phyrexian Metamorph
    2 Simian Spirit Guide

    4 Chalice of the Void
    2 Dismember
    2 Umezawa's Jitte
    2 Warping Wail
    2 Thorn of Amethyst

    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Cavern of Souls
    4 Eldrazi Temple
    3 Eye of Ugin
    3 City of Traitors
    3 Wasteland
    3 Mishra’s Factory

    4 Leyline of the Void
    2 Warping Wail
    2 Endbringer
    3 All Is Dust
    2 Pithing Needle
    2 Ratchet Bomb


    I've been actually very happy with the Thorns again (and feel like 2 is a good number, surely not 4) as they have surely slowed down opponents library manipulation. Wasteland I have liked as well, it has helped to slow down opponents as well. Earlier I might have been too aggressive with the Wasteland losing my own aggressiveness by not deploying more threats first so it might be that my skills haven't been where they should be. Occasionally Wasteland + Thorn is obviously very good. Also I have not missed Urborg.

    Phyrexian Metamorph has been only ok so that is definitely flexible slot depending on meta and as a prove to my inexperience with the interactions I though Metamorph could copy a creature that is put into play by Show&Tell :P Will try something else there next time.

    About sideboard:

    All Is Dust has still been great. Ratchet Bomb has been borderline as for the token match ups I have had my chalice on board as well so using it for zero is not the best thing you can do but sometimes have to do. I think colorless still needs Ratchet as a catch all answer to lots of stuff like Ensnaring Bridge as discussed before. Leylines are very good where they need to be.

    With this list I most likely sideboard as follows, at least in general (hopefully I can get some advise here). The order of the match ups and the deck lists we are supposedly facing is based on http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/legacy#online I've left this intentionally without my reasoning for each choice to get some objective advise first.

    Miracles:

    - 2 jitte, -2 metamorph, -4 reshaper
    +2 ratchet, +2 wail, +2 all is dust, +2 endbringer


    Mirror:

    - 4 chalice, -2 thorn
    +2 Endbringer, +2 ratchet, +2 needle


    Shardless:

    On the play
    -4 cotv, -2 metamorph
    +3 all is dust, +1 warping wail, +2 endbringer

    On the draw
    -4 cotv, -2 metamorph, -1 endless one
    +3 all is dust, +2 warping wail, +2 endbringer


    4c Delver:

    -4 mimic, -2 metamorph, -2 dismember, -1 endless one
    +2 endbringer, +2 wail, +2 needle, +3 all is dust


    Burn:

    -2 dismember, -2 metamorph
    +2 ratchet bomb, +2 warping wail


    Deathblade:

    -4 cotv, -2 dismember, -2 reshaper
    +3 all is dust, +2 endbringer, +2 needle, +1 wail


    ANT:

    -2 jitte, -4 reshaper, -2 dismember
    +4 leyline, +2 ratchet, +2 wail


    Reanimator:

    -2 jitte, -4 reshaper, -2 endless one
    +4 leyline, +2 wail, +2 endbringer


    Death&Taxes:

    On the play
    -2 thorn, -2 wail, -1 mimic
    +3 all is dust, +2 endbringer

    On the draw
    - 4 cotv, -2 thorn, -2 wail
    +3 all is dust, +2 needle, +3 endbringer


    Lands:

    -2 jitte, -2 dismember, -4 reshaper
    +4 leyline, +2 needle, +2 endbringer


    Sneak&Show:

    -2 jitte, -2 dismember, -2 reshaper
    +2 wail, +2 endbringer, +2 needle


    BUG Delver:

    On the play
    -2 metamorph, -1 endless one
    +3 all is dust

    On the draw
    -4 cotv, -2 metamorph, -3 mimic
    +3 all is dust, +2 warping wail, +2 endbringer, +2 needle


    Hopefully this gets sideboarding discussion going :)

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by RhoxWarMonk View Post
    Just finished watching the reanimator matchup, my god man that was a savage top deck at the end with Displacer to get back your TKS and take out his Ashen Rider Great job on the tournament and congrats!!
    That was my favorite moment of the tournament. It's a shame the archived video doesn't have sound anymore. It's so much more hilarious with it. IIRC, it was something like this:

    "Well, I guess I could take 6."
    *play Displacer*
    "That's all you got?"
    *activate Displacer*
    "I guess targeting Thought-Knot Seer is pretty good."
    *the moment the horribly realization kicks in when TKS enters my side of the board, resulting in a 4-card swing and him being dead on board now*
    "Shit! FUCK!"



    I really hope I can watch all of my replays at some point because there were a couple of really sweet plays and games in it.

    @Riehu: Sideboarding really isn't my forte, so don't expect too much of it. What exactly do you want to know?

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    That was my favorite moment of the tournament. It's a shame the archived video doesn't have sound anymore. It's so much more hilarious with it. IIRC, it was something like this:

    "Well, I guess I could take 6."
    *play Displacer*
    "That's all you got?"
    *activate Displacer*
    "I guess targeting Thought-Knot Seer is pretty good."
    *the moment the horribly realization kicks in when TKS enters my side of the board, resulting in a 4-card swing and him being dead on board now*
    "Shit! FUCK!"



    I really hope I can watch all of my replays at some point because there were a couple of really sweet plays and games in it.

    @Riehu: Sideboarding really isn't my forte, so don't expect too much of it. What exactly do you want to know?
    It's not mine either so I'd like to just finally start that conversation in general to see what I have missed :)

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Riehu View Post
    I've been playing colorless version for the past 3 leagues going 4-1, 5-0 and 4-1. The first 4-1 should have been 5-0 most likely as I made a big mistake against RUG delver losing my Mishra to Nimble Mongoose.

    League mono 4-1
    BUG delver 2-0
    Food Chain Wasteland MVP to slow down
    RUG delver 1-2
    Shardless 2-1 All is dust MVP
    Food Chain 2-1

    League mono 5-0

    Miracles 2-0
    UWRG Delver 2-1
    Mirror 2-0
    Epic Storm 2-1
    Burn 2-0

    League mono 4-1

    RUG 2-1
    Elves 0-2
    Painter 2-1
    Burn 2-1
    UWB Reanimator 2-0


    4 Endless One
    4 Matter Reshaper
    4 Eldrazi Mimic
    4 Reality Smasher
    4 Thought-Knot Seer
    2 Phyrexian Metamorph
    2 Simian Spirit Guide

    4 Chalice of the Void
    2 Dismember
    2 Umezawa's Jitte
    2 Warping Wail
    2 Thorn of Amethyst

    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Cavern of Souls
    4 Eldrazi Temple
    3 Eye of Ugin
    3 City of Traitors
    3 Wasteland
    3 Mishra’s Factory

    4 Leyline of the Void
    2 Warping Wail
    2 Endbringer
    3 All Is Dust
    2 Pithing Needle
    2 Ratchet Bomb


    I've been actually very happy with the Thorns again (and feel like 2 is a good number, surely not 4) as they have surely slowed down opponents library manipulation. Wasteland I have liked as well, it has helped to slow down opponents as well. Earlier I might have been too aggressive with the Wasteland losing my own aggressiveness by not deploying more threats first so it might be that my skills haven't been where they should be. Occasionally Wasteland + Thorn is obviously very good. Also I have not missed Urborg.

    Phyrexian Metamorph has been only ok so that is definitely flexible slot depending on meta and as a prove to my inexperience with the interactions I though Metamorph could copy a creature that is put into play by Show&Tell :P Will try something else there next time.

    About sideboard:

    All Is Dust has still been great. Ratchet Bomb has been borderline as for the token match ups I have had my chalice on board as well so using it for zero is not the best thing you can do but sometimes have to do. I think colorless still needs Ratchet as a catch all answer to lots of stuff like Ensnaring Bridge as discussed before. Leylines are very good where they need to be.

    With this list I most likely sideboard as follows, at least in general (hopefully I can get some advise here). The order of the match ups and the deck lists we are supposedly facing is based on http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/legacy#online I've left this intentionally without my reasoning for each choice to get some objective advise first.

    Miracles:

    - 2 jitte, -2 metamorph, -4 reshaper
    +2 ratchet, +2 wail, +2 all is dust, +2 endbringer


    Mirror:

    - 4 chalice, -2 thorn
    +2 Endbringer, +2 ratchet, +2 needle


    Shardless:

    On the play
    -4 cotv, -2 metamorph
    +3 all is dust, +1 warping wail, +2 endbringer

    On the draw
    -4 cotv, -2 metamorph, -1 endless one
    +3 all is dust, +2 warping wail, +2 endbringer


    4c Delver:

    -4 mimic, -2 metamorph, -2 dismember, -1 endless one
    +2 endbringer, +2 wail, +2 needle, +3 all is dust


    Burn:

    -2 dismember, -2 metamorph
    +2 ratchet bomb, +2 warping wail


    Deathblade:

    -4 cotv, -2 dismember, -2 reshaper
    +3 all is dust, +2 endbringer, +2 needle, +1 wail


    ANT:

    -2 jitte, -4 reshaper, -2 dismember
    +4 leyline, +2 ratchet, +2 wail


    Reanimator:

    -2 jitte, -4 reshaper, -2 endless one
    +4 leyline, +2 wail, +2 endbringer


    Death&Taxes:

    On the play
    -2 thorn, -2 wail, -1 mimic
    +3 all is dust, +2 endbringer

    On the draw
    - 4 cotv, -2 thorn, -2 wail
    +3 all is dust, +2 needle, +3 endbringer


    Lands:

    -2 jitte, -2 dismember, -4 reshaper
    +4 leyline, +2 needle, +2 endbringer


    Sneak&Show:

    -2 jitte, -2 dismember, -2 reshaper
    +2 wail, +2 endbringer, +2 needle


    BUG Delver:

    On the play
    -2 metamorph, -1 endless one
    +3 all is dust

    On the draw
    -4 cotv, -2 metamorph, -3 mimic
    +3 all is dust, +2 warping wail, +2 endbringer, +2 needle


    Hopefully this gets sideboarding discussion going :)
    .

    Mimic and matter reshaper is generally where i start. (besides when chalice and trinisphere are the obvious cuts) am i just doing it wrong? i tend to keep my metamprphs in against anything playing goyf just because it allows me to copy the goyf, again maybe i'm doing it wrong but then again i'm not playing 3 all is dust so ....i'm gunna give all is dust a try. Over all i really like your approach and tend to agree with your ins/outs. The one other question i have is why needle over revokers in the board?

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy



    My match vs Julian R3.

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    Yeah about those 4 Containment Priest. As I mentioned on Twitter, I confused your list with Overvoltage's.

    Good Games.
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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Riehu View Post
    I've been playing colorless version for the past 3 leagues going 4-1, 5-0 and 4-1. The first 4-1 should have been 5-0 most likely as I made a big mistake against RUG delver losing my Mishra to Nimble Mongoose.

    League mono 4-1
    BUG delver 2-0
    Food Chain Wasteland MVP to slow down
    RUG delver 1-2
    Shardless 2-1 All is dust MVP
    Food Chain 2-1

    League mono 5-0

    Miracles 2-0
    UWRG Delver 2-1
    Mirror 2-0
    Epic Storm 2-1
    Burn 2-0

    League mono 4-1

    RUG 2-1
    Elves 0-2
    Painter 2-1
    Burn 2-1
    UWB Reanimator 2-0


    4 Endless One
    4 Matter Reshaper
    4 Eldrazi Mimic
    4 Reality Smasher
    4 Thought-Knot Seer
    2 Phyrexian Metamorph
    2 Simian Spirit Guide

    4 Chalice of the Void
    2 Dismember
    2 Umezawa's Jitte
    2 Warping Wail
    2 Thorn of Amethyst

    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Cavern of Souls
    4 Eldrazi Temple
    3 Eye of Ugin
    3 City of Traitors
    3 Wasteland
    3 Mishra’s Factory

    4 Leyline of the Void
    2 Warping Wail
    2 Endbringer
    3 All Is Dust
    2 Pithing Needle
    2 Ratchet Bomb


    I've been actually very happy with the Thorns again (and feel like 2 is a good number, surely not 4) as they have surely slowed down opponents library manipulation. Wasteland I have liked as well, it has helped to slow down opponents as well. Earlier I might have been too aggressive with the Wasteland losing my own aggressiveness by not deploying more threats first so it might be that my skills haven't been where they should be. Occasionally Wasteland + Thorn is obviously very good. Also I have not missed Urborg.

    Phyrexian Metamorph has been only ok so that is definitely flexible slot depending on meta and as a prove to my inexperience with the interactions I though Metamorph could copy a creature that is put into play by Show&Tell :P Will try something else there next time.

    About sideboard:

    All Is Dust has still been great. Ratchet Bomb has been borderline as for the token match ups I have had my chalice on board as well so using it for zero is not the best thing you can do but sometimes have to do. I think colorless still needs Ratchet as a catch all answer to lots of stuff like Ensnaring Bridge as discussed before. Leylines are very good where they need to be.

    With this list I most likely sideboard as follows, at least in general (hopefully I can get some advise here). The order of the match ups and the deck lists we are supposedly facing is based on http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/legacy#online I've left this intentionally without my reasoning for each choice to get some objective advise first.

    Miracles:

    - 2 jitte, -2 metamorph, -4 reshaper
    +2 ratchet, +2 wail, +2 all is dust, +2 endbringer


    Mirror:

    - 4 chalice, -2 thorn
    +2 Endbringer, +2 ratchet, +2 needle


    Shardless:

    On the play
    -4 cotv, -2 metamorph
    +3 all is dust, +1 warping wail, +2 endbringer

    On the draw
    -4 cotv, -2 metamorph, -1 endless one
    +3 all is dust, +2 warping wail, +2 endbringer


    4c Delver:

    -4 mimic, -2 metamorph, -2 dismember, -1 endless one
    +2 endbringer, +2 wail, +2 needle, +3 all is dust


    Burn:

    -2 dismember, -2 metamorph
    +2 ratchet bomb, +2 warping wail


    Deathblade:

    -4 cotv, -2 dismember, -2 reshaper
    +3 all is dust, +2 endbringer, +2 needle, +1 wail


    ANT:

    -2 jitte, -4 reshaper, -2 dismember
    +4 leyline, +2 ratchet, +2 wail


    Reanimator:

    -2 jitte, -4 reshaper, -2 endless one
    +4 leyline, +2 wail, +2 endbringer


    Death&Taxes:

    On the play
    -2 thorn, -2 wail, -1 mimic
    +3 all is dust, +2 endbringer

    On the draw
    - 4 cotv, -2 thorn, -2 wail
    +3 all is dust, +2 needle, +3 endbringer


    Lands:

    -2 jitte, -2 dismember, -4 reshaper
    +4 leyline, +2 needle, +2 endbringer


    Sneak&Show:

    -2 jitte, -2 dismember, -2 reshaper
    +2 wail, +2 endbringer, +2 needle


    BUG Delver:

    On the play
    -2 metamorph, -1 endless one
    +3 all is dust

    On the draw
    -4 cotv, -2 metamorph, -3 mimic
    +3 all is dust, +2 warping wail, +2 endbringer, +2 needle


    Hopefully this gets sideboarding discussion going :)
    you said you have not convinced you of the 2 metamorph right? What would you put?
    second question: against rug delver,omnitell,mud..side out and side in..thanks?

  18. #398

    Hi,

    I already mentioned that against Most of the MUs nevinyrrils disc is the answer. Its way more castable than all is dust and it kills ensnaring bridge. Its also a Killer in the mirror. And I think there is a good Chance to meet more and more Eldrazi. Also against blood moon all is dust is way too slow. And you kill cards that are a real pain in the Ass like jitte/any swords/vial/Interrupt top-mentor combo ... You cannot kill with all is dust.
    I play 2 md and 1 all is dust sb. I am very happy so far! And with 4 factories and 21 eldrazis I got enough pressure after the board is wiped.
    I really recommend disc. :-)

  19. #399

    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    That was my favorite moment of the tournament. It's a shame the archived video doesn't have sound anymore. It's so much more hilarious with it. IIRC, it was something like this:

    "Well, I guess I could take 6."
    *play Displacer*
    "That's all you got?"
    *activate Displacer*
    "I guess targeting Thought-Knot Seer is pretty good."
    *the moment the horribly realization kicks in when TKS enters my side of the board, resulting in a 4-card swing and him being dead on board now*
    "Shit! FUCK!"



    I really hope I can watch all of my replays at some point because there were a couple of really sweet plays and games in it.

    @Riehu: Sideboarding really isn't my forte, so don't expect too much of it. What exactly do you want to know?
    That's fantastic! Do you know if there's any other replays of the tournament? Maybe even the finals? Ive watched all I could so far, really seeing the Displacer doing some serious work.

  20. #400

    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by RhoxWarMonk View Post
    That's fantastic! Do you know if there's any other replays of the tournament? Maybe even the finals? Ive watched all I could so far, really seeing the Displacer doing some serious work.
    Can you link those?

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