I would say factory due it's uniqueness, but wouldn't say no to nfc as well. Perhaps zend CutThroatCasual an pm? He would not kind, right?Originally Posted by Quasim0ff
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Factory cut are, due to their scarcity, harder to come by. NFC's is easier, due to the amount of sheets being sold and cut the last few years.
What cards are you interested in? Brainstorms, forces etc. are close to impossible to find within a reasonable budget.
If I was to hazard a guess I would think Gamble, Glacial Chasm and Manabond. I know I am looking for them.
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As a big miscut player myself, seeing NFC's like the ones Eli trots out feel on the same level as running FTV foils. They can be cool at times given their extreme cuts, but they aren't authentic. The entire allure of miscuts is in the nature of how it is an accidental process because they offer something completely unique. That's the ultimate in pimp factor; having something that is better than the original, and with miscuts there isn't really an equal due to how scarce they are and how diverse they are. Yet when someone purposefully does this, it completely takes away the point of why they are attractive in the first place.
So that said, factory cut or bust. I would never run a NFC card if I am going for a true pimp factor, because it simply isn't pimp to make your own damn "pimp" cards. Next we might as well see someone peel the foil off a card and then iron it onto a non-foil and call it a day. As for where to find them, your best bet these days is scouring Ebay, maybe the high end Facebook group, or become friends with Ben Carp (Gunslinga). Otherwise, Starcity does have theirs listed and for a long time had tons of them, but their well has mostly dried up. But in general you have to be very patient when finding them as it is an incredibly slow and painful process, especially if you are trying to build a playset, and expect to pay out the ass if you want things like Brainstorms and Forces.
So how does one differ between factory miscut card and miscut card done by player?
On a side note I must agree that what is Eli doing doesn't feel right, especially if he is manufacturing those for sale.
You can usually tell from an imperfection in the cut. Either a corner isn't rounded particularly well or you can see a starting/ending mark. I purchased a FtV Goblin Lackey before I knew NFC was a thing. A month or two later someone asked if they could look at it out of the sleeve/perfect fit and showed me an imperfection at the bottom edge that was caused during the cutting process. Now I hate the thing.So how does one differ between factory miscut card and miscut card done by player?
On a side note I must agree that what is Eli doing doesn't feel right, especially if he is manufacturing those for sale.
Another sign of NFC vs Factory Miscut is the severity of the miscut. I have a Saga Lackey that is shifted so there is no black border on the right side (and a double thick border on the left side). Most NFC you see will show pieces of 4 cards but still be conveniently positioned so that the intended card is legal for play based on what it is required to show.
Do factory miscut FTVs exist?
I haven't seen any myself but it is possible given there are numerous miscuts floating around in similar releases, most notably the Duel Decks series.
I believe many that are found between Fallen Empires-Urza block are legitimate, as printing was far less consistent and sheets less likely to be obtained and forcefully miscut given there wasn't much of a market for things like this at the time. Obviously later sets can be like this too, but the most I have come across that are legit are between 94-98. In general newer miscuts (unless relatively minor and clearly factory cut) are taken with skepticism as sheets are easily available these days and can be cut, but most of the time sellers acknowledge the cards are NFC. I know there were foil Origins and foil Modern Masters sheets cut like this fairly recently and are littered all over the place online. It's a rather lame way for people trying to profit tbh.
The only newer miscuts that I can think of are those crazy cliques that gunslinga posted once.
Bingo, but I'm afraid I'm in for the long haul. Do you already have miscuts for RGCL? If so, where did you find them, if I might ask?
@ QuasimOff: miscuts, wether fc or nfc, right now it does not matter: i have to start somewhere
@ Di: where do you usually go 'miscut-hunting'? I would prefer authentic miscuts, but that would be an extremely difficult task if I would take your words into account.
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The Miscut/missprint group on facebook is a pretty good starting place.Bingo, but I'm afraid I'm in for the long haul. Do you already have miscuts for RGCL? If so, where did you find them, if I might ask?
@ QuasimOff: miscuts, wether fc or nfc, right now it does not matter: i have to start somewhere
@ Di: where do you usually go 'miscut-hunting'? I would prefer authentic miscuts, but that would be an extremely difficult task if I would take your words into account.
Otherwise there's a NFC group also, where you could certainly ask for specific cards.
I think you want to decide how and what you are after. There's a huge differecence between NFC, which is very often cut in very funky ways, like tilted to the side, showing 4 cards, and factory cut, which often shows a small part of another card somewhere on the border. The cards doesnm't look super good next to each other.
Sadly no. I am going card by card, grabbing what I can. I have found that when I want to build a deck I go at breakneck speed, but when I am just switching cards over I take my time. I have been playing with mismatched Mazes for months.
It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
I hope your afterlife is filled with eternal torment.
Fuck. Which one of my quotes do I drop for this?
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