[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

[btm10]

1) In order for the same thing to happen with duals as Force, they need to be printed at mythic.

2) Wasteland was $70 pre-announcement. It fell to $50 post-announcement/pre-release. It's now $40. So unless you live in a world where $10 = $20, I don't know what you're talking about.

1. Is there any reason to suspect they wouldn't be?

2. Current TCG Mid is $55.70, it was $67.43 on February 1, and $64.28 on February 16, the day after EMA was confirmed and Wasteland was spoiled. Forgive me for saying "$10" instead of "between $9 and $12".

[Ace/Homebrew]

Forgive me for saying "$10" instead of "between $9 and $12".

[snorlaxcom]

Hopefully more RL cards end up getting bought out in the same way. More power to you for specing on the market and making some profit. I'd have done the same for Tabernacle, Gaea's Cradle, and MoxD if I didn't have to pay for grad school.

Do you think wotc cares to save eternal formats enough to take action here? If not, then make that cheddar while suckers are still willing to buy.

This situation reminds me of "The Gentlemen's Agreement" for legacy/vintage deck construction that had yet to be fully exploited by mainstay players until pros got on the scene some years back.

[hymnyou]

fuck that dude. Everyone will be well aware the price is artificial, this wanna be line-cook will run his investors broke, sell out, and the price will stabilize. Diamond was bought out months ago and it re-stabilized already until this garbage. All this does is lock people out of decks for no reason. It's a serious failure. Get a real job.

[LOLWut]

For those curious, here's the guy behind the spikes:
https://www.facebook.com/craig.berry...6960745401441/

His facebook profile, like most, makes me wish I could ship an entire generation to a different planet. They've all seemingly gone to Lifeworks Alternative School.

[Lord Seth]

The only thing I wonder is when we finally reach the point, people really evaluate the price of these cards and decide to put their money in better entertainment, buy a car or make holidays with hookers instead of buying Rishadan Ports.

Or just getting into a cheaper card game. One of the big selling points of Force of Will (the TCG, not the card) is the fact that it's very similar to Magic but the price of entry is substantially cheaper. Admittedly, that might change, but for now it's nice to have legitimately competitive decks cost about $100 to make.

How the fuck does WotC want to attract people from 10-30 years as their core market if decks are one grand and up (unless you want to get slapped all day with your Duel Deck bullshit)?

By pushing Standard as the most important format, just like they've always done. Older cards being crazy expensive doesn't mean anything to Standard.

[Lord Seth]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...is-Magic-Cards

That already happened a while ago and Wizards gave zero fucks.

What we need is basically an organzied heist with heavy weapons and all that jazz.

You know, a friend of mine said he's surprised that an organized crime group hasn't tried to hit up a Grand Prix like that yet.

[Dice_Box]

Merged buyout and price threads.

[Crazy Eddie]

You know, a friend of mine said he's surprised that an organized crime group hasn't tried to hit up a Grand Prix like that yet.

I guess it would be too difficult to cash in on such a big number of high value cards (especially since robbing a whole GP would generate a big amount of media attention).

[Spam]

They'll get chewed and then put some togas on them? Is this some Innistrad/Theros crossover?

j/k I know what you meant.

Sorry, it seems Emrakull's influence is effecting my grammar. Truth is she just wants some Oreos.
I'm not writing this, she is!
Give me Oreos!

[Lemnear]

PS4/XB1 don't have nearly the same replayabilty as MTG. It's a stupid argument and will never not be such.

And still we have people complaining that evey game of Legacy is the same cantrip galore.

I don't blame people getting more fun out of a new videogame/month or a short vacation every three months instead of dealing with the MtG modern/Legacy/Standard secondary market

[sdematt]

And still we have people complaining that evey game of Legacy is the same cantrip galore.

I don't blame people getting more fun out of a new videogame/month or a short vacation every three months instead of dealing with the MtG modern/Legacy/Standard secondary market

I could have gone in on LEDs, but instead, fuck it. Drove around this whole week and had a blast. Thanks again, Magic the Gathering. Your old sig says it all ;p

[Lemnear]

I could have gone in on LEDs, but instead, fuck it. Drove around this whole week and had a blast. Thanks again, Magic the Gathering. Your old sig says it all ;p

Yeah, blame the site for not hosting enough space for two sigs

[Dice_Box]

I am very close to selling all but Lands, Goblins and Eldrazi and putting down a house deposit.

[sdematt]

I am very close to selling all but Lands, Goblins and Eldrazi and putting down a house deposit.

Do it. Get a pool if you can. Ferrari in the driveway?

[Dice_Box]

Do it. Get a pool if you can. Ferrari in the driveway?

Would rather a Ford GT. Sadly it's not worth anywhere where near that much money. What I have though is the rising price of some of my cards as well as a falling Australian Dollar. I am looking at the perfect storm and just can't stop feeling like it's time to sell.

[Ace/Homebrew]

You're probably better off keeping Painter and selling Goblins. Then you have three wildly different decks that attack the format in completely different ways. And in theory at least one of the three will be in a good position at any given time.

Keep a Modern deck too, just in case.

[sdematt]

Would rather a Ford GT. Sadly it's not worth anywhere where near that much money. What I have though is the rising price of some of my cards as well as a falling Australian Dollar. I am looking at the perfect storm and just can't stop feeling like it's time to sell.

Once the USD hit 1.33 Canadian I cashed out of my extras and bought the Porsche. Could I have ground for more value? Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, a card game as an investment deal is pretty crazy either way.

[CutthroatCasual]

1. Is there any reason to suspect they wouldn't be?

They weren't mythic in VMA, and WotC would never print "regular" lands at mythic.

2. Current TCG Mid is $55.70, it was $67.43 on February 1, and $64.28 on February 16, the day after EMA was confirmed and Wasteland was spoiled. Forgive me for saying "$10" instead of "between $9 and $12".

TCG Mid is a terrible data point. How many of those mid cards are selling? Or better yet, how many cards are selling at the mid prices? Furthermore, TCG prices are calculated by listing, not actual sale. People are cheap, they will always buy the price closest to TCG Low. And if they can't find the condition they want for that price, they won't buy on TCGP when they have access to the even lower prices on facebook.

[btm10]

They weren't mythic in VMA, and WotC would never print "regular" lands at mythic.

Comparing a paper set to VMA is utter nonsense, especially when discussing the highest-profile Reserved staples other than Power. Masters sets are designed not to crash markets, and WotC makes rarity decisions with the secondary market in mind.

TCG Mid is a terrible data point. How many of those mid cards are selling? Or better yet, how many cards are selling at the mid prices? Furthermore, TCG prices are calculated by listing, not actual sale. People are cheap, they will always buy the price closest to TCG Low. And if they can't find the condition they want for that price, they won't buy on TCGP when they have access to the even lower prices on facebook.

If that were true the TCG Mid prices would fall until they hit the market-clearing price, or the lows would rise as people realized that their cards could be sold for more. A lot of the buyout angst arises from the relatively fast rate at which the markets respond to them. If anything TCG Mid lowballs the price on NM because it includes all conditions, and many people still use it to determine fair trade value or to comparison shop.