Kaladesh -or- When Kiran met Pia

[benoasan]

This one (and 6ccm Nissa to) is from the Planeswalker Packs.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...cks-2016-09-06

[Barook]

If the next Chandra gets even more one-dimensional, then we're hitting a singularity.

[supremePINEAPPLE]

Well yeah, it's for an intro pack...

[CptHaddock]

Well yeah, it's for an intro pack...

Exactly, they wanted a product that would appeal to new players. It's supposed to be extremely underpowered.

[Cire]

Still find it weird that there are two new chandra's with the Kaladesh set symbol.

[Darkenslight]

If the next Chandra gets even more one-dimensional, then we're hitting a singularity.

Sort of, AIUI, these are Standard-legal variants of the Planeswalkers already in the set.

Like this one:

Nissa, Vital Force

Planeswalker - Nissa
+1: Untap target land you control> until your next turn, it becomes a 5/5 Elemental creature with haste. It's still a land.
-3: Return target permanent card from your graveyard to hand.
-6: You get an emblem with "Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may draw a card."
5 Loyalty

That ult is good, and the other abilities are strong, too.

[rufus]

Hmm.. Madcap Experiment seems totally abusable. All you need is a piece of damage prevention like Intervention Pact or Angel's Grace.

3R
Sorcery
Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal an artifact card. Put that card onto the battlefield and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order. Madcap Experiment deals damage to you equal to the number of cards revealed this way.

[Ace/Homebrew]

Nissa, Vital Force

Planeswalker - Nissa
+1: Untap target land you control> until your next turn, it becomes a 5/5 Elemental creature with haste. It's still a land.
-3: Return target permanent card from your graveyard to hand.
-6: You get an emblem with "Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may draw a card."
5 Loyalty

Source

The +1 turns a land into a 5/5 until your next turn. So she can protect herself.
Isn't this a broken card in a Standard with Oath of Gideon?

Also... feeling a little overwhelmed with all the planeswalker cards being printed.
Which feels really weird for me to say.

[Cire]

Hmm.. Madcap Experiment seems totally abusable. All you need is a piece of damage prevention like Intervention Pact or Angel's Grace.

Or just search up Platinum Emperion

[rufus]

Or just search up Platinum Emperion

Yeah... that might fit into Big red some kind of aggro deck?

[Gheizen64]

Or just search up Platinum Emperion

Yeah that seems a cute combo for legacy (give some consistency to all-in red and similar decks for marginal costs, like 2 of those and 2 platinum emperions) and seems probably really good for modern.

Alternatively run a deck with like 4 Wurmcoils and other artifact fatties. You need to not run Chrome moxens but i don't think that's a big deal.

[maharis]

New Chandra is the best red planeswalker, and what? Not flexible? It draws cards, makes mana, does damage to creatures and also players. But, as it is inherently a burn card or a control card, does it do either of these things better than existing options? Probably not. But she is so flexible that I might makes something for her.

I meant not flexible in terms of deck type. I don't think this card is stronger than many other options for a Rxx midrange deck, but it's great for the various flavors of big red decks.

Hmm.. Madcap Experiment seems totally abusable. All you need is a piece of damage prevention like Intervention Pact or Angel's Grace.

Personal Sanctuary seems like one of those cards just begging to be broken. Though I guess COP:Red does just as well.

The new Nissa is very intriguing. Almost impossible to beat on an empty board, but 3GG is steep. To the Nic Fit thread...

[Barook]

Burrenton Forge-Tender is probably the more competitive variant for Modern to stop the self-damage from Madcap Experiment.

[Cire]

Yeah that seems a cute combo for legacy (give some consistency to all-in red and similar decks for marginal costs, like 2 of those and 2 platinum emperions) and seems probably really good for modern.

It looks really good for Modern . . . for legacy. . . Red decks sort of want to run lots of artifacts which makes this much worse - but you do want to accel it out so sometype of Jund?


The Jund Imperium?

23 Lands

4 Tarmogoyf
4 DRS
4 Other Threats or Accel?
2 Platinum Imperium

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Madcap Experiment
4 Thoughtseize
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Abrupt Decay
3 Liliana of the Veil

[Gheizen64]

+ 4 Batterskull (lifelink to offset lifeloss)
+ 4 Wurmcoil Engine (Ditto)
+ 2 Platinum Emperion (no damage on flip)

EDIT: chalice is a lot of anti-sinergy with this damn. Probably make this go straight to the unplayable pile. Too bad it was sorta interesting.

[rufus]

Yeah that seems a cute combo for legacy (give some consistency to all-in red and similar decks for marginal costs, like 2 of those and 2 platinum emperions) and seems probably really good for modern.

Alternatively run a deck with like 4 Wurmcoils and other artifact fatties. You need to not run Chrome moxens but i don't think that's a big deal.
...

You could try Mirror Universe but it's probably not strong enough.

There's probably a way to work this into a Shape anew/welder shell with artifact token makers like like Thopter Engineer.

[maharis]

With a W/R deck you can either E-Tutor the target to the top or play one of the myriad ways to stop the damage. Janky, but you never know...

[Dice_Box]

265/264? Second Chan?

Edit:
Ok, read more. I am caught up now. Needed to refresh the page.

[H]

This one (and 6ccm Nissa to) is from the Planeswalker Packs.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...cks-2016-09-06

I might actually get these for my kids, incidentally the two oldest have favorite colors of Red and Green, in Magic and real life.

[rufus]

4 U U

Artifact Creature - Construct

Flash

When Torrential Gearhulk enters the battlefield, you may cast target instant card from your graveyard without paying its mana cost. If that card would be put into your graveyard this turn, exile it instead.

Instant-only limits this a bit, but it seems like we're getting to the combo section of the spoilers.