Aether Revolt -or- Kaladesh 2: Ghirapur Drift

[ESG]

This begs the question: Where the hell are my vikings?

On Phyrexia?

[Manipulato]

I like that they're running down the list of different cultures and ticking off the list.

I don't like how there is a set called "Conquest of Power." That may just take the new crown as Worst Named Set Ever. Geez, if this is our standard for naming, now, let's just go ahead and crank out some more:

Quest for Magic
Magic of Power
Victory of Battle
Magic for Quests
Power of Power
Power Magic of Quest for Power

Look ma I'm a set designer

Totally agree. Conquest of Power & Hour of Devastation sounds like trashy YugiOh editions

[Lemnear]

Totally agree. Conquest of Power & Hour of Devastation sounds like trashy YugiOh editions

Come on ... MtG already introduced Trap-Cards and the game us all about Dragons, Demons and other Fatties crashing into each other.

[Whitefaces]

Come on ... MtG already introduced Trap-Cards and the game us all about Dragons, Demons and other Fatties crashing into each other.

Fatties are just Scathe Zombies with kicker.

[DarthVicious]

Fatties are just Scathe Zombies with kicker.

And trap cards have a kicker your opponent pays for.

[MaximumC]

Fatties are just Scathe Zombies with kicker.

Excuse me, but Scathe Zombies are just Mons Goblin Raiders with kicker.

[bruizar]

Excuse me, but Scathe Zombies are just Mons Goblin Raiders with kicker.

Which are just stronger Kobolds

[Crimhead]

Saddest thing about this block is that WotC will never throw a bone to Affinity, lest they bolster the Modern counterpart. Damn you, Modern!

The best we can hope for is a new toy for Tezzerator, or possibly MUD.

[Dice_Box]

Saddest thing about this block is that WotC will never throw a bone to Affinity, lest they bolster the Modern counterpart. Damn you, Modern!

The best we can hope for is a new toy for Tezzerator, or possibly MUD.

Inventor’s Fair was not nothing from the last set. You never know.

[Zombie]

Saddest thing about this block is that WotC will never throw a bone to Affinity, lest they bolster the Modern counterpart. Damn you, Modern!

The best we can hope for is a new toy for Tezzerator, or possibly MUD.

There is a pretty huge Affinity creature in the set. Won't make it in Legacy, but Gearseeker Serpent made a splash in Pauper Affinity (and let me tell you that deck doesn't incorporate new cards lightly)

[Pilhas]

Saddest thing about this block is that WotC will never throw a bone to Affinity, lest they bolster the Modern counterpart. Damn you, Modern!

The best we can hope for is a new toy for Tezzerator, or possibly MUD.

can always go for a fleetwheel cruiser like vintage did. Maybe its fine

[Dice_Box]

can always go for a fleetwheel cruiser like vintage did. Maybe its fine

4 Mana is hard when your not playing with the two most broken lands ever printed.

[Lemnear]

4 Mana is hard when your not playing with the two most broken lands ever printed.

According to Sean, lands are not broken by default....

[Fox]

It would depend on if the decks wanting a Stifle effect are willing to pay an additional every time for occasionally getting to counter a spell instead. Outside of StifleNaught, I'd say no…

Tempo values the mana efficiency more than the versatility (given that all its other counter magic is 'free').

The decks that want to counter a spell for would clearly adopt it as it would be a strict upgrade, but there are not many of those.

Stiflenought doesn't want this new mono-U Voidslime; 4 mana doesn't really leave any mana for Stifle redundancy nor backup countermagic (nevermind the whole Daze/Wasteland plan). Trickbind's split second is much better than counter target spell and +1 mana requirement. Instead of this new card you're probably better off spending that 4 mana magical christmasland on Reins of Power, because resolving that (especially at 5 mana or in response to a flicker) will actually win games. New card can't win a stack war nor will it ever survive discard-centric strategies (no more DTT to push that out of the meta).

The deck that runs Disallow probably has to be pretty dedicated to not actively trying to win a game of magic (miracles, blade), though I would actually expect to see it more in mono-U Vial decks (even with their ~8-9x colorless lands).

[Ace/Homebrew]

My comment was continuing a thought-experiment posed by Lemnear about what decks would use Disallow if it cost instead of .

No Legacy deck will want Disallow as printed.

[Fox]

My comment was continuing a thought-experiment posed by Lemnear about what decks would use Disallow if it cost instead of .

No Legacy deck will want Disallow as printed.

Ah missed that part. Were it only 2 cmc though, I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect R&D to do the right thing and make it cost (devoid colorless mana requirement). The last thing legacy needs is to give Counterbalance a direct upgrade to their Counterspell.
On a side note the 3cmc part isn't as backbreaking as losing split second attached to the Stifle portion of Disallow; there is inherent value at this mana cost as opposed to 2cmc.

[MaximumC]

My comment was continuing a thought-experiment posed by Lemnear about what decks would use Disallow if it cost instead of .

No Legacy deck will want Disallow as printed.

Currently, Miracles plays Counterspell pretty commonly and Stoneblade variants play it sometimes. If you stapled Stifle on to Counterspell, then many more decks would play it. Basically, any control deck would have to have an EXTRAORDINARILY good reason not to play with a 2 mana hard counter that also acts like a 2 mana Stone Rain sometimes.

[Ace/Homebrew]

Posting the whole conversation leading up to where Fox quoted me 25 posts after the fact :

Old card, new mana cost

I wonder if the card or Voidslime would be playable at 2cc

I mean, it would be a strict upgrade to counterspell, so yes.

That is obvious. The question was more in the direction of this would make 2cc counterspells relevant again aside being a 1-/2-off in Miracles

It would depend on if the decks wanting a Stifle effect are willing to pay an additional every time for occasionally getting to counter a spell instead. Outside of StifleNaught, I'd say no…

Tempo values the mana efficiency more than the versatility (given that all its other counter magic is 'free').

The decks that want to counter a spell for would clearly adopt it as it would be a strict upgrade, but there are not many of those.

[Dice_Box]

Tezzeret, "More metal than ever" 2UB

+1: Create a colorless artifact token named Etherium which has [t], sacrifice Etherium token: add one mana of any color into your mana pool.

-2: Target creature gets +X/-X until end of turn which X is the number of artifacts you control.

-7: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of your combat phase, target artifact you control becomes a 5/5 artifact creature."

5 Starting Loyalty.




"Slaves
Hebrews born to serve, to the pharaoh
Heed
To his every word, live in fear
Faith
Of the unknown one, the deliverer
Wait
Something must be done, four hundred years"

Seamed appropriate.

Edit:
If Tez doesn't make that Skyship thing do a Weatherlight impression with the Paradoxical Outcome invention, I will be very disappointed.

[Lemnear]

Shits Lotus Petals, no real cardadvantage, can not really defend himself, ultimate is a bad version of Agent of Bolas.

I am not even sure it would be playable at 3cc. Did I miss something?