Let's not start this again.Originally Posted by Scott
Apparently people named Scott like Didgeridoos.
I'm surprised that that list won a Grand Prix, but it makes sense given that it's 83% vs. Threshold.
Man, remember when this site could have fun?
The Aftermath cards seem really lackluster so far. I get that some of the price tag on the rare ones is balanced around not being a total blowout in Limited, but none of them look particularly exciting for Constructed except in a "starved for options" kind of way. Most of them seem inflated by one or two mana on both ends, especially relative to the Fuse cards, which these sort of ape in terms of effect synergy. I wonder why they were so gun-shy about the cards.
As Foretold is in this set, and they know it's fucking stupid and broken. Pro-Tip, the last time they changed the rules or pre-emptively banned something even before release was Mind's Desire, which was absolutely broken in the formats it was banned in. The dressed up the rule change in Split cards as something else, but straight up, it was because As Foretold is another card that slipped through their super-rigorous FFL testing, much like the CopyCat combo.
New cards:
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Seems like a decent Commander card, especially with the first part being an instant.
Not sure about this, but it has potential in Standard, Modern and Commander.
Yeah, this might be legit. Build it up to a Gilded Lotus. More mana-intensive, but it comes down much earlier.
7 mana total to get a Gilded Lotus. Can't see a reason to play this unless you need colorfixing in the early turns
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Actually only 4 mana, because you get a mana back from the activation.
Yeah it's not that bad, except for the fact that it cost
Make it unplayable in artifact lists.
2 cost and 1 activation would've made this playable in legacy but prob too good in other formats (essentially a 2 mana suspend 3 gilded lotus)
Desert lands incoming.
Colorless karoos incoming? A man can dream.
This seems to be a cycle. No white one yet.
The blue one seems to be the only good one so far. Cantripping permanent untapping could allow some interesting tricks.
White one is Renewed Faith, that legendary Bastion of Onslaught.
This seems to be a cycle. No white one yet.
The blue one seems to be the only good one so far. Cantripping permanent untapping could allow some interesting tricks.
Finally a strong card
"You either die a Onesto-Player, or live long enough to see yourself become a Dredger"
Sweet tumbling Sands can fit in Edric, untapping my Cradle.
It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
I hope your afterlife is filled with eternal torment.
Fuck. Which one of my quotes do I drop for this?
That's two cards with potential. High tide decks are going to get another look after this set comes out.
One reason Aftermath cards could be down in power/overcosted is that each is 2 cards in one. You have to tack on some mana for the effective +1 card that you get.
Sure. And that makes most of them completely unplayable unfortunately
That Vizier is SO close... if only he could tap stuff.. ah well.
Lot of good cyclers so far. I think Archfiend is still objectively the strongest, given that he has built in instant speed wrath or at least permanent debuff effects off of stuff like TfK and JVP in addition to cycling shenanigans, he cycles himself, and his body has evasion and is bigger than a Sengir Vampire for the same cost.
Still waiting to see if we get any cycling style enchantments besides Drake's Roost.
Legacy-playable (EDIT: cycling cards) I'd say we're at:
Archfiend of Ifnir
Renewed Faith
Vizier of Tumbling Sands
Dissenter's Deliverance
Cast Out
Curator of Mysteries
Most of those are "niche playable" but still, that's not bad. DD can go in pretty much anything if you think you might see artifact-heavy decks but also think you'll see artifact-light decks and don't want to burn all of your sideboard slots on them. Cast Out is a good way to get rid of, well, anything, and will usually dodge CB, and the cycling cost of W makes it pretty easy to trade out if you don't need it.
Last edited by morgan_coke; 04-11-2017 at 12:22 PM.
Pull from Tomorrow is definitely niche playable.
There are maybe half a dozen of us excited about Cruel Reality for a certain version of Nic Fit. It actually fills a hole for the deck and might streamline it quite a bit. Started as "Nyx Fit" running Academy Rectors to power out Starfield of Nyx plus a handful of other targets. Cruel Reality is basically a tutor target that 1) controls the board, 2) handles Jace, and 3) is a win condition. Great main-deck card to handle a swath of decks. Meaning we can trim our enchantment tutor package - it allows us to start running more Decay/Sword/Brutalities which increases our early interaction.
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