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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Nissa plays really well into T2 Library, T3 Nissa.

    The ability to play her for 3 mana also opens up the ability for this opening:
    T1: Land, Dork
    T2: Land, Nissa, Scry 2 (putting her at 3)
    T3: Draw, put into play whatever you set up

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    Seems cool. Also got the green god which seems surprisingly playable, even in Legacy

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    So he works if there's a goyf or an angler or a tasigur or something, and even if all you've got out is say, a bob, he can get there for 3 mana. Seems solid, if not ideal.

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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    The ability to play her for 3 mana also opens up the ability for this opening:
    T1: Land, Dork
    T2: Land, Nissa, Scry 2 (putting her at 3)
    T3: Draw, put into play whatever you set up
    I like that...for Modern. In Legacy, a vulnerability to Blasts and Decay is probably too much for a 'Walker.
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    Seems okay for UWg Superfriends Miracles. Might impact the board too much for their favor tho.
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    After thinking about it some more, I'm not sure that Nissa is going to be very good in any format.

    To get her "busted" phase, you need to use the 0 ability a lot, but it only works on lands and creatures, and you need to be able to manipulate the top of your library - which means either Sylvan Library or Top (BS can do it as a one time effect), it also means you need to be running a fair number of creatures and lands in Legacy.

    In Modern and Standard there aren't any "top of the library" manipulators, so you're a lot worse off there. Best case scenario you get a land or critter every other turn after setting up with her +2, but that assumes you don't shuffle or draw after using it, and that her +2 is able to put a good creature or land 2 down, which most of the time? It won't be able to.

    Probably her best bet in Std/Mdrn is to work as a pseudo-Sylvan for 3 mana that occasionally whacks people with elemental lands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
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    To get her "busted" phase, you need to use the 0 ability a lot, but it only works on lands and creatures, and you need to be able to manipulate the top of your library - which means either Sylvan Library or Top (BS can do it as a one time effect), it also means you need to be running a fair number of creatures and lands in Legacy.
    ...
    Honestly, she's not terrible if she just starts filtering the lands out of your draws and onto the field. Scry 2, then draw business and put a land into play from the top of your deck the next turn.

    ...In Modern and Standard there aren't any "top of the library" manipulators, so you're a lot worse off there. ...
    Just peeking makes her abilities a lot stronger. I imagine having her and Courser of Kruphix in play at the same time could snowball quickly. (She might even share a deck with Vizier of the Menagerie in standard.)

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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    People shouldn't forget that her 0 ability does not only makes stuff uncounterable and generates card advantage, it also ramps, either in form of additional lands or creatures played for free.

    Setting her up shouldn't be that problematic with on-color options like Library, Top and fucking Brainstorm, not to mention she can scry up stuff herself. At worst, she's FoW fodder.

    Her being vulnerable to removal is a valid argument, but that doesn't make her unplayable imho.

    The only thing I don't like about her is her underwhelming ult.

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    So... Worldgorger Dragon combo gets a new toy



    Well, at least looks like an upgrated version of the lands that this deck already use as a win con.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander Eesha View Post
    So... Worldgorger Dragon combo gets a new toy



    Well, at least looks like an upgrated version of the lands that this deck already use as a win con.
    Meh. I prefer Lighthouse or Nephilia drownyard, since they do something to help fin the combo

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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

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    SDT, Fetches, Wastes, Ports, Vials, KotR, equipment, SFM, manlands, what else am I missing that's super common?

    EDIT: can you do a RG deck with this and Burning-Tree Shaman?

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    Christ this card might be very good. I really hate their one sided design though. Wish it was two sided.
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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    Christ this card might be very good. I really hate their one sided design though. Wish it was two sided.
    I mean, i prayed for a way for dega to beat miracles, I didn't think I'd get something this insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    SDT, Fetches, Wastes, Ports, Vials, KotR, equipment, SFM, manlands, what else am I missing that's super common?

    EDIT: can you do a RG deck with this and Burning-Tree Shaman?
    Deathrite Shaman obviously (all three abilities)

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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Cool thing about the card is that it's damage, not life loss. This means if Jace ever tries to bounce this guy, he dies. can be shot with it.

    Also super happy they didn't make it legendary. Only downside is being in the literal worst colour for creatures in Legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian23 View Post
    Cool thing about the card is that it's damage, not life loss. This means if Jace ever tries to bounce this guy, he dies.

    Also super happy they didn't make it legendary. Only downside is being in the literal worst colour for creatures in Legacy.
    Jace's ability doesn't trigger the red mentor's one.

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    Re: Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

    Quote Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss View Post


    I always hoped for this card since I loved Burning-Tree Shaman, but sadly, he's too bad for Legacy.

    I expected it to be and symmetrical. This is even more insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    SDT, Fetches, Wastes, Ports, Vials, KotR, equipment, SFM, manlands, what else am I missing that's super common?
    ...
    Griseldad, Spellskite isn't a thing in legacy, is it?

    Edit: Doesn't hit Planeswalkers

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