Kaladesh -or- When Kiran met Pia

[MaximumC]

+ 4 Batterskull (lifelink to offset lifeloss)
+ 4 Wurmcoil Engine (Ditto)
+ 2 Platinum Emperion (no damage on flip)

EDIT: chalice is a lot of anti-sinergy with this damn. Probably make this go straight to the unplayable pile. Too bad it was sorta interesting.

You're thinking too small. This card is Tinker as long as you are stopping the damage. You want to get Blightsteel, Sphinx of the Steel Wind, Sundering Titan, or Inkwell depending on the nature of your matchup. As far as ways to avoid the damage, buddy, we got those in SPADES:

Modern:
Soulfire Grand Master (lifelink offsets the damage, lets you tinker twice with tons of mana, helps burn, etc)
Forge Tender (kinda weak unless you're comboing, but hoses Red hard)
Personal Sanctuary (useless other than for the combo)

Legacy:
Solitary Confinement (also tastes great with another card from Conspiracy 2...)
Energy Storm (My favorite burn / delver hoser)
Circle of Protection: Red (Ah, the classics...)
Greater Realm of Preservation (Ah, the slightly more versatile classics...)
Rune of Protection: Red (Ah, the cantripping classics...)
Protective Sphere (Ah, the 5 color deck classics...)
Invulnerability
Glacial Chasm (Drop dat chasm, cast dat spell; the most efficient of all)

And I'm probably missing many, many more.

Think about pairing this with Nahiri in some kind of W/R burn/tinker deck. Add the polymorph for artifacts? Sounds sexy to me! THERE ARE SO MANY TOOLS IM GONNA DIE.

EDIT: If you run x4 those new Blue Gearhulks, you can chain all four of them out after casting Madcap Skills ONCE. Soulfire Grand Master will stop the damage.

[rufus]

You're thinking too small. This card is Tinker as long as you are stopping the damage.

I think it's more like Oath of Druids than tinker. You don't get a toolbox and there are deck building restrictions, but it's still very strong.

EDIT: If you run x4 those new Blue Gearhulks, you can chain all four of them out after casting Madcap Skills ONCE. Soulfire Grand Master will stop the damage.

New gearhulk is instant-only. Madcap Experiment is a sorcery.

[bruizar]

possessed portal, punishing fire, madcap experiment

[H]

possessed portal, punishing fire, madcap experiment

Possessed Portal is so slow though. Only chance is to maybe substitute Squee, Goblin Nabob for Fires and try it in Modern.

[Ace/Homebrew]

Is there a way to redirect the damage from Madcap Experiment to an opponent?
Like a Charbelcher-style deck, but without any artifacts...

Possibly for Modern?

[bruizar]

Lich's Mirror :-) Too bad we don't have Channel. http://www.archive.themanadrain.com/...&topic=37247.0

[maharis]

Probably worth noting that Madcap Experiment is both in the some color as, and a valid target for, Burning Wish.

[H]

Is there a way to redirect the damage from Madcap Experiment to an opponent?
Like a Charbelcher-style deck, but without any artifacts...

Possibly for Modern?

Deflecting Palm but then you realize if they counter Palm you lose, .

EDIT: Oops, I'm dumb and didn't really RTFC,

[Ace/Homebrew]

Deflecting Palm but then you realize if they counter Palm you lose, .

That was my first thought too (Deflecting Palm)! But if you read it a bit closer, specifically the last 3 words, you'll notice it doesn't accomplish what we want.

Ideally this would be a 'ritual into big mana' deck. So most Modern decks could at best Remand the redirect spell.

[rufus]

Deflecting Palm but then you realize if they counter Palm you lose, .

... Deflecting Palm deals that much damage to that source's controller. ...

Nope.

Mirror Universe is close.

[rufus]

Lich's Mirror :-) Too bad we don't have Channel. ...

You could try with Treasonous Ogre and use Lich's Mirror to draw 7 and reset life totals, but, on its face, that seems awful.

[bruizar]

Just run 3/4 bots + show and tells. That's probably what will happen.. Sphinx + Platinum Emporium + Blighsteel Colossus with sideboard Possessed Portal against Storm/Combo and Inkwell Leviathan against control

[Lemnear]

Just run 3/4 bots + show and tells. That's probably what will happen.. Sphinx + Platinum Emporium + Blighsteel Colossus with sideboard Possessed Portal against Storm/Combo and Inkwell Leviathan against control

For me thats just a third tool in addition to through the breach and Sneak Attack for MonoRedSneakAttack. Just needs some Blightsteels or Emperions

[bruizar]

For me thats just a third tool in addition to through the breach and Sneak Attack for MonoRedSneakAttack. Just needs some Blightsteels or Emperions

No love for Stronghold Gambit?

[bruizar]

I find this very combolicious for EDH. I'm just not sure what engine this fuels, but it does fuel something.


This one is also very powerful. 5/4 for 2 mana, or 3/2 but big enough to eat a bolt, or win combat against most creatures


Could easily join up with Arcbound Ravager

[rufus]

...

I find this very combolicious for EDH. I'm just not sure what engine this fuels, but it does fuel something.

Riddlesmith or Jeskai Ascendancy

[H]

This one is also very powerful. 5/4 for 2 mana, or 3/2 but big enough to eat a bolt, or win combat against most creatures

I believe it can only ever be a 4/3, the trigger asks you to pay 1, I don't think you can somehow pay 2E.

Card is still pretty decent i think.

[swoop]

I find this very combolicious for EDH. I'm just not sure what engine this fuels, but it does fuel something.


This one is also very powerful. 5/4 for 2 mana, or 3/2 but big enough to eat a bolt, or win combat against most creatures


Could easily join up with Arcbound Ravager

Isn't this 2nd guy a 4/3 when he attacks?

[MaximumC]

No love for Stronghold Gambit?

None.

[bruizar]

Isn't this 2nd guy a 4/3 when he attacks?

I'd love to get a definitive ruling on this.