Quote Originally Posted by Fossil4182 View Post
I would agree Survival has been around before and its even been a DTB before. However, its never been in the discussion of the best deck in the format. Nor has it even been so "dominating" that it has drawn out calls for banning it or has it needed dedicated Sideboard hate.
Yes it was and yes it has. Just because you weren't playing Legacy yet doesn't mean it didn't happen. People were all about banning Survival and they had a much better excuse at the time since Pithing Needle and Krosan Grip didn't exist yet.

Survival decks will continue to pop up from time to time, they all have the same weaknesses though. If Survival gets dealt with before you get a chance to use it you are just playing a subpar creature deck, Vengevine or not.