Quote Originally Posted by 4eak View Post
I've recently picked up dredge again. After a good bit of playtesting, this is the list I have so far. FWIW, after a good bit of playtesting, this is the list I have so far:

// Lands - 14
4 City of Brass
4 Cephalid Coliseum
4 Gemstone Mine
2 Tarnished Citadel

// Dredgers - 12
4 Golgari Thug
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Stinkweed Imp

// GY Goodies -- 17
3 Ichorid
4 Narcomoeba
2 Dread Return
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Bridge from Below

// Acceleration - 16
4 Breakthrough
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Faithless Looting
4 Careful Study

// Lonely & Sad - 1
1 Putrid Imp

// Sideboard
SB: 4 Nature's Claim
SB: 2 Ray of Revelation
SB: 2 Ancient Grudge

SB: 1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
SB: 1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite

SB: 3 Putrid Imp
SB: 2 Tireless Tribe

I had 4x PImps in the main, but frankly, I've liked Careful Study, Dredgers, and land more. I'm not even sold on the singleton in the main. I can't seem to find what I want for that spot though. If I really want the ability to grind, I can side in the permanent outlets. Most of the time, I just want my draw spells to do most all of my dirty work.

Ray is looking worse and worse. I think Leyline/Wheel looks worse and worse, and Cage better and better. I may eventually lose them (a surprise to me), but they stay for now.

Also, thank you for your argument about DDDing, Final Fortune. The argument is not new to me, I've just been a bit dogmatic in always wanting to be on the play with LED/Faithless Looting variants. I haven't actually spent much time actually trying out DDD, and I should have (*the argument for a such a practice was much stronger before Faithless Looting, both for LED and LEDless). You might be right. I'm going to have to at least try it.


peace,
4eak
Is the plan against Green Sun's Zenith decks (with access to Scavenging Ooze and/or Knight of the Reliquary) simply to try to go off really fast before their hate gets online? Those matchups seem a bit shaky without Firestorm, which can serve as another "slow" discard outlet (albeit not a repeatable one).