Quote Originally Posted by mykatdied View Post
I think it comes down to. Sometimes delver does it's thing and is near impossible to beat.
Exactly this.

I think my build is in general set up well against Delver, probably better than many other green builds (and i really don't think blue builds are that much better against Delver, if at all). It's still about 50/50, just very swingy overall. In the beginning i didn't have a good plan for Delver and lost a lot, then after some changes i was winning almost every match against Delver, then i lost every match for some time, then i started winning again. I think my current list is favored against most Delver decks, but it will never be an easy matchup.

There isn't one strategy that works all the time. Tabernacle can do some work, but sometimes it's useless. Same goes for Maze of Ith. A fast win condition, like S&T for blue lists or Dark Depths for me, can win a lot of games, but sometimes they can stop it. Engineered Explosives main is great and usually buys me a lot of time, but it's not always enough either. Warping Wail can help a bit against most Delver decks.

I think my deck can answer everything Delver does, but i don't have all my different answers at the same time, and sometimes my answers just don't line up with their threats. Tabernacle is bad when they are flooded, Maze of Ith is bad when they are going wide, a Wasteland (or FoW for the Crop Rotation) at the wrong time can stop Dark Depths, Warping Wail does nothing against Goyf, sometimes they Stifle the Engineered Explosives, etc.

From my experience, Grixis Delver is the easiest Delver matchup. BUG Delver depends - lists without Stifle are maybe even easier to beat than Grixis, but most lists i played against had Stifle, and against these decks i don't think i'm favored. RUG Delver i didn't play much, but it's not that different from a BUG list with Stifle. UR Delver is probably the worst - sometimes you just can't win, and Blood Moon from the sideboard doesn't make it easier.