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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    When that finally happens, I am jumping around between all different kinds of band-wagons of "WotC tries to kill off Legacy".
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    Just to finish the pileup: anything Primal Surge can do is unlikely to compare favourably to what Tooth and Nail can do (win the game on the spot, with the extra flexibility to handle most potential roadblocks), and the former brings significantly more deckbuilding constraints.

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    Oh man, I so wish Riddle was playable though.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    If you re-arrange the letters in Riddle of Lightning they spell "Voldemort runs WOTC"

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    At this point, I guess that expecting Brainstorm not to be banned after these miracle previews is like expecting Tinker not to be banned shortly after Mirrodin's release. Gentleman's agreement notwithstanding.
    Please stop talking about whether Force of Will is broken or not. It obviously is, and rather than "the glue that holds vintage together" it would be better to call it "the rug under which you hide the filth until there's so much that you can no longer conceal it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post

    On the plus side, these cards make Judge Unworthy totes playable.
    Wow... good call on Judge Unworthy! It is a real combo with miracle cards because they have a ver high CMC...

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    Brainstorm and maybe Top have a good chance of getting the axe now. Stuff like the Wrath are retarded, but not ban-worthy.

    Personal Tutor is probably going to be banned as well.

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    I doubt Personal Tutor will be banned. The thing with Brainstorm and Top is that Brainstorm was already the best card in Legacy, and Top probably in the top five. They did not need any help being amazingly solid cards. And yet they follow up Delver with this shit.
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    If they ban Brainstorm (and as much as I'm not a big fan of Blue dominance, I wouldn't want to see it go), I hope they have the balls to reprint it except color-shifted to Red. That way at least the effect still stays, just in what is arguably the weakest color. Or they could just axe all the miracles, because fucking miracles, how do they work?

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamaican Zombie Legend View Post
    If they ban Brainstorm (and as much as I'm not a big fan of Blue dominance, I wouldn't want to see it go), I hope they have the balls to reprint it except color-shifted to Red. That way at least the effect still stays, just in what is arguably the weakest color. Or they could just axe all the miracles, because fucking miracles, how do they work?
    Highly unlikely. They did banned Preordain and Ponder in Modern.

    If they do print a red Brainstorm, mono-red storm might be viable in Modern.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

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    I am interested to see if Brainstorm will survive the Miracle mechanic. I honestly think this topic deserves its own thread but I am not sure if the Mods would survive that.
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    No talk of banning until there are actual Miracle lists out there that people actually agree are at least as good as the non-Miracle versions.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    Well, I am too lazy to build or test UW Miracle if Brainstorm gets banned anyway, but you could basically start the thread about it in the DtB forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tao View Post
    Well, I am too lazy to build or test UW Miracle if Brainstorm gets banned anyway, but you could basically start the thread about it in the DtB forum.
    Well no agreed upon build right now, but i started a thread in the new and development section. Miracle Whip! #lamenameftw

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SHITSUNAMI]

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    How is that better than exisitng discard artifacts?

    You're unlikely to run demons in such kind of deck.

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    Any ways to abuse this?
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SIMMERING POT OF FECAL MATTER]

    Will Primal Surge get played in Elves Combo potentially? It seems like a half-decent Glimpse #5 if you can ramp into it.

    I can see this card going into a deck that plays all creatures and Concordant Crossroads. Ramp to 10 mana (not really that hard in green with 12-post) and then play your whole deck, except for the other 3 copies of Primal Surge. Chances are good that you'll get a crap-ton of fat creatures and then swing with them hasted FTW. Kitchen table awesome? Yep. Legacy playable? Meh, probably not...
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    Elves combo would rather play Recycle than this card. In fact, they would probably play Primordial Sage instead of Recycle. So it won't see play in that deck.

    EDIT: I just noticed you didn't read the card properly, it's much worse than what you imagine.
    Please stop talking about whether Force of Will is broken or not. It obviously is, and rather than "the glue that holds vintage together" it would be better to call it "the rug under which you hide the filth until there's so much that you can no longer conceal it".

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SIMMERING POT OF FECAL MATTER]

    So you only repeat the process once? I figured if you put a permanent onto the battlefield you repeated the process indefinately until you exile a non-permanent card.

    Bummer...that would have been pretty good.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SIMMERING POT OF FECAL MATTER]

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SIMMERING POT OF FECAL MATTER]

    Quote Originally Posted by Humphrey View Post
    It really needs the Miracle Decree. The card is insane, except for not being pitchable for FoW (even) better than the Time Walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    So you only repeat the process once? I figured if you put a permanent onto the battlefield you repeated the process indefinately until you exile a non-permanent card.

    Bummer...that would have been pretty good.
    The problem is it's a sorcery. If you run any more than 1x Primal Surge, you're going to run into the other Primal Surges, which makes inconsistency an issue - and at 10 mana, that is not good.

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