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    Eh, I'd rather have a goblin.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by jrw1985 View Post
    I was poking around Gatherer and just stumbled onto this beauty:

    Hearth Charm

    Has anyone tried playing it? It looks pretty decent against fair decks. It can let you force a Lackey/Winstigator through. It can completely mess up combat math. And it kills Shardless Agent, Baleful Strix, Phyrexian Revoker and uh.... that's about it. Still, this actually seems fairly decent. But is it doomed by not being a Goblin card?
    Well a while back a deck top 8ed an SCG with Goblin Tunneler if you wanted to try something out of the box for unblockable effects. There is another card that I always thought was borderline playable in Fire Whip that can do a repeatable Hearth Charm and has some flexibility with being able to kill DRS and SFM. I thought it was just barely good enough to try it out, but have never got around to testing it.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by jrw1985 View Post
    I was poking around Gatherer and just stumbled onto this beauty:

    Hearth Charm

    Has anyone tried playing it? It looks pretty decent against fair decks. It can let you force a Lackey/Winstigator through. It can completely mess up combat math. And it kills Shardless Agent, Baleful Strix, Phyrexian Revoker and uh.... that's about it. Still, this actually seems fairly decent. But is it doomed by not being a Goblin card?
    I have tested Hearth Charm. As a one or two of you never seem to find it when it is relevant, and in most cases you would be better off with a lightning bolt to just kill the blocker you are trying to sneak past.

    It is really nice in the side board vs. MUD / affinity, but I don't see much application beyond that.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper View Post
    Mrblueduck, do you have any videos with goblins deck or maybe twitch channel?

    One of my goals this summer was to do some legacy recording/streaming and I finally got a chance. I jumped on last night and did a quick recording thinking it would be easy to post. Well I was wrong. I had to get another entirely new recording software to re-record my original so I could convert it into a file that is compatible with Youtube. I really liked the video, but the end result was a little grainy and the audio was lagging behind gameplay. I thought the gameplay was interesting, and it was against BUG so felt really relevant. Anyways, hopefully future videos will look much better as I am only using just one recording software.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWi0swFFfW4

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by mrblueduck View Post
    One of my goals this summer was to do some legacy recording/streaming and I finally got a chance. I jumped on last night and did a quick recording thinking it would be easy to post. Well I was wrong. I had to get another entirely new recording software to re-record my original so I could convert it into a file that is compatible with Youtube. I really liked the video, but the end result was a little grainy and the audio was lagging behind gameplay. I thought the gameplay was interesting, and it was against BUG so felt really relevant. Anyways, hopefully future videos will look much better as I am only using just one recording software.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWi0swFFfW4
    That was a really greedy keep on his part, the 1 lander. The "consensus" is that goblins plays Wasteland and Rishadan Port. It's possible he didn't know the deck very well. Oh well, you stomped him.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by mrblueduck View Post
    Great! Спасибо!

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Does anyone have an updated Restoration Angel list? I would love to give the angels a try, but don't know if they fit best into a "normal" or a Winstigator list?

    Thanks!
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzalot View Post
    Does anyone have an updated Restoration Angel list? I would love to give the angels a try, but don't know if they fit best into a "normal" or a Winstigator list?

    Thanks!
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    Will post tomorrow =]
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzalot View Post
    Does anyone have an updated Restoration Angel list? I would love to give the angels a try, but don't know if they fit best into a "normal" or a Winstigator list?

    Thanks!
    Hans
    Resto list? QUE?!

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by ScatmanX View Post
    Will post tomorrow =]
    Sounds great :)

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper View Post
    Great! Спасибо!
    I had the chance to record a few others matches, a really close one against Mono Red Burn, and two less interesting ones against Sneak and Show and Tezzeret Thopter Combo. Unfortunately the audio has failed on all the videos, which is extremely frustrating since I already have no idea what I am doing to begin with. So, that might be the only video I ever get to post...

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by mrblueduck View Post
    I had the chance to record a few others matches, a really close one against Mono Red Burn, and two less interesting ones against Sneak and Show and Tezzeret Thopter Combo. Unfortunately the audio has failed on all the videos, which is extremely frustrating since I already have no idea what I am doing to begin with. So, that might be the only video I ever get to post...
    Don't give up, I always love seeing goblins in action !

    Quote Originally Posted by potatodavid
    Resto list? QUE?!
    list with some restoration angels that can blink all our value creatures and combo off with kiki-jiki for an instant win. Plus beats in the air :)

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    @Hanzolot
    This is how my current Resto build is now:

    4 Wasteland
    3 Rishadan Port
    3 Cavern of Souls
    3 Plateau
    6 Fetchlands
    4 Mountain

    4 Aether Vial
    4 Goblin Lackey
    4 Goblin Matron
    4 Goblin Ringleader
    4 Goblin Warchief

    4 Tarfire
    2 Gempalm Incinerator
    1 Stingscourger

    2 Goblin Piledriver
    3 Mogg Warmarchall

    1 Tuktuk Scrapper
    1 Goblin Sharpshooter
    1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
    2 Restoration Angel

    SB
    2 Thalia, Defenfer of Grabar
    2 Ethersworn Cannonist
    1 Spirit of the Labirynth
    2 Mindbreak Trap
    2 Chalice of the Void

    3 Wear/Tear

    1 Boartusk Liege
    2 Rest in Peace / Cage

    Really wanted a SGC or a Krenko in there, but the curve is already too high, even with 23 lands...
    And fuck combo! =D
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by ScatmanX View Post
    @Hanzolot
    This is how my current Resto build is now:

    4 Wasteland
    3 Rishadan Port
    3 Cavern of Souls
    3 Plateau
    6 Fetchlands
    4 Mountain

    4 Aether Vial
    4 Goblin Lackey
    4 Goblin Matron
    4 Goblin Ringleader
    4 Goblin Warchief

    4 Tarfire
    2 Gempalm Incinerator
    1 Stingscourger

    2 Goblin Piledriver
    3 Mogg Warmarchall

    1 Tuktuk Scrapper
    1 Goblin Sharpshooter
    1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
    2 Restoration Angel

    SB
    2 Thalia, Defenfer of Grabar
    2 Ethersworn Cannonist
    1 Spirit of the Labirynth
    2 Mindbreak Trap
    2 Chalice of the Void

    3 Wear/Tear

    1 Boartusk Liege
    2 Rest in Peace / Cage

    Really wanted a SGC or a Krenko in there, but the curve is already too high, even with 23 lands...
    And fuck combo! =D
    Drop the KiKi or the sharpshooter the Krenko then. Unless your aim is to resto the kiki for an extra activation. I think you'd be better off with krenko for longer games. Blinking the Krenko will help preserve him to make sure he completely sticks too. He's a game winner more so than kiki, and he's at a lower CMC.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by potatodavid View Post
    Drop the KiKi or the sharpshooter the Krenko then. Unless your aim is to resto the kiki for an extra activation. I think you'd be better off with krenko for longer games. Blinking the Krenko will help preserve him to make sure he completely sticks too. He's a game winner more so than kiki, and he's at a lower CMC.
    Once you're able to blink Kiki, you won the game.

    Krenko should come in Sharpshooter's place, the move SS to sideboard, perhaps.
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by potatodavid View Post
    Unless your aim is to resto the kiki for an extra activation.
    I don't believe you understand the interaction.

    Kiki on the board.
    Play Resto.
    Resto targets Kiki.
    Kiki copies Resto then disappears.

    Kiki returns in time for the new Resto to target Kiki.
    Continue doing this until you are content.

    Swing FTW.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandalize View Post
    Once you're able to blink Kiki, you won the game.

    Krenko should come in Sharpshooter's place, the move SS to sideboard, perhaps.
    I'm not entirely sold on Resto in general. She would have to be a natural draw unless she's in our starting hand, because lord knows we can't ringleader or matron her. I want to believe but.... I think she's probably better in a Stompy list where you're blinking something like Akroma Angel of Fury.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by ScatmanX View Post
    @Hanzolot
    This is how my current Resto build is now:

    List...

    Really wanted a SGC or a Krenko in there, but the curve is already too high, even with 23 lands...
    And fuck combo! =D
    Thanks! I'm thinking that a Goblin Settler might be nice too. Would 2-3 Sol Lands or Chrome Mox make any sense in solving the high curve problem? Perhaps instead of the ports.

    Also, have you ever tried fitting the angels into a Winstigator build?
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    I have played with 1 ancient tomb and 1 mox there. Its actually fine. But just want to keep the port number up. But if you want, cut 1 or 2 for it.
    Never played resto/gator as the concept of both decks is kind of conflicting. I might easily be wrong but dont think itd be better than a traditional build.
    And oh yeah. Settler could be awesome there. Just dont have any and dont have plans to actually buying one (though am tempted as hell)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScatmanX View Post
    And oh yeah. Settler could be awesome there. Just dont have any and dont have plans to actually buying one (though am tempted as hell)
    How good is Settler? I've seen him popping up in more and more lists here. Is it becoming something that will be a mainstay of the deck if even as a 1-of?

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