[Deck] Goblins

[Stevestamopz]

I don't know him at all, but i've been following the coverage the whole day so when i saw the results i recognized the lands player name.

Nice to see a chief doing really well. I liked his list without any splashing and the full 4 waste/4 port

Remember when it was agreed upon by everyone else that this old school-style build was outdated

[Chatto]

I met with Gobolord, and know he went well the last time I saw him. I will say nomore

[ScatmanX]

Jon, your inbox is full!

GoboLord did a solid 6-3. Think we'll be getting a report sometime next week.
Sandro was 3-3 last time I got any info. Don't know how he finished.

[Sandro95]

Jon, your inbox is full!

GoboLord did a solid 6-3. Think we'll be getting a report sometime next week.
Sandro was 3-3 last time I got any info. Don't know how he finished.

I went 4-4, drop, losing to Jund, Burn and BUG Delved, and to being late for round 2. I did beat another Burn player and two Grixis Delver decks, and also had one bye. GoboLord was playing a very solid list, I'll post more details about my tournament experience later.

[Stevestamopz]

I went 4-4, drop, losing to Jund, Burn and BUG Delved, and to being late for round 2. I did beat another Burn player and two Grixis Delver decks, and also had one bye. GoboLord was playing a very solid list, I'll post more details about my tournament experience later.

Did you end up playing Magus/Blood Moon?

[jrw1985]

All right! Aston had a hell of a good weekend rocking Goblins!

ASTON RAMSDEN'S GOBLINS, 152ND AT GRAND PRIX

4 Goblin Lackey
4 Goblin Matron
4 Goblin Warchief
4 Goblin Ringleader
4 Goblin Piledriver
3 Mogg War Marshal
3 Tarfire
2 Gempalm Incinerator
2 Goblin Rabblemaster
1 Krenko, Mob Boss
1 Goblin Sharpshooter
1 Legion Loyalist
1 Skirk Prospector

4 Æther Vial

4 Cavern of Souls
4 Wasteland
4 Rishadan Port
2 Scalding Tarn
3 Arid Mesa
5 Mountain

Sideboard

2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Relic of Progenitus
4 Ashen Rider
3 Blood Moon
4 Chalice of the Void


ASTON RAMSDEN, GRAND PRIX TRIAL WINNER

4 Goblin Lackey
3 Tarfire
4 Æther Vial
1 Skirk Prospector
1 Legion Loyalist
4 Goblin Piledriver
3 Mogg War Marshal
2 Gempalm Incinerator
4 Goblin Matron
4 Goblin Warchief
1 Goblin Rabblemaster
1 Goblin Sharpshooter
4 Goblin Ringleader
1 Krenko, Mob Boss
1 Tuktuk Scrapper

4 Cavern of Souls
4 Wasteland
4 Rishadan Port
2 Scalding Tarn
3 Arid Mesa
5 Mountain

Sideboard

3 Pyrokinesis
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Tormod's Crypt
4 Blood Moon
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Grafdigger's Cage


Looks like he made a minor adjustment between the trial and the main event. He must have seen a bunch of Miracles and no Equipment so he dropped the Tuktuk for a second Rabblemaster. Rabblemaster is pretty excellent at putting a clock on by itself. Then he dropped Pyro from the sideboard and brought in Ashen Rider instead.

[Chatto]

Don't know if he's on here, but I beated an Omnitell-player who got his ass whooped by a Goblin-player. Boy, that guy was pissed! I wouldn't be surprised this Goblin-player is Aston Ramsden.

[GoboLord]

Hey Chieftains,

here is my report from GP Lille, I hope you enjoy it.

REPORT


Also, I am really sorry that the players meeting didn't happen. I did meet Sandro at 5 p.m. but apparently there was more than one place which could be seen as "in front of the main entreance". Also, I did meet Chatto and Morkus on the eventside and in the hotel respectively. Was nice to see you guys there.

[jrw1985]

Gobolord and Aston put up strong results with fairly different approaches. The main similarity I see between their builds is that both decks are very streamlined. They're not running toolbox builds. Comparing their decks to builds I've been running lately I feel like I've been trying to squeeze in too much. I'll probably be simplifying my deck for the next tournament.

[Tokugawa]

Hey Chieftains,

here is my report from GP Lille, I hope you enjoy it.

REPORT


Also, I am really sorry that the players meeting didn't happen. I did meet Sandro at 5 p.m. but apparently there was more than one place which could be seen as "in front of the main entreance". Also, I did meet Chatto and Morkus on the eventside and in the hotel respectively. Was nice to see you guys there.

Well done! Glad to see Winstigator build had some fun.

[swoop]

Where can I see and talk about possible standard and modern builds?

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[Ace/Homebrew]

Where can I see and talk about possible standard and modern builds?

MTG Salvation.



And despite how that might be read, I say that without any implied snark or scorn.

[seilaquem]

Hey Chieftains,

here is my report from GP Lille, I hope you enjoy it.

REPORT


Also, I am really sorry that the players meeting didn't happen. I did meet Sandro at 5 p.m. but apparently there was more than one place which could be seen as "in front of the main entreance". Also, I did meet Chatto and Morkus on the eventside and in the hotel respectively. Was nice to see you guys there.

I have been wondering... If we remove the aether vials for more clock, so it os easier to play topdeck mode...

Does it seem possible? I have been wondering about that.. But my build didn't work pretty well.

Besides, it lowers the chance of getting aether vial stuck on hand.. It adds pressure, and chrome mox gets more cards to be removed...

[Tokugawa]

I have been wondering... If we remove the aether vials for more clock, so it os easier to play topdeck mode...

Does it seem possible? I have been wondering about that.. But my build didn't work pretty well.

Besides, it lowers the chance of getting aether vial stuck on hand.. It adds pressure, and chrome mox gets more cards to be removed...

The best way of preventing Vials stuck in hands, is not playing 0 Vial. It is to put a Goblin Ringleader into play.

[Dan Pyre]

Quick question for more experienced Goblins players:

In an opening hand with both Goblin Lackey and AEther Vial (and things to put into play with both) - is it more imperative to try to get the Vial going as soon as possible, or is it more pressuring to play the Lackey on the first turn to get things into play for free? Obviously knowledge of what your opponent is on might influence this decision, but in general what is the philosophy here?

Thanks!

[Kanti]

After looking over GoboLor'ds tournament report again I see that he played 8/9 Island decks. Some were fast combo so this idea might not apply, but what about running Carpet of Flowers in the main-deck, to act as a pseudo Vial 5-7 or whatever. If it ran WInstigator the mana base could be...

4 Cavern of Souls
3 Wasteland
2 Pendelhaven
5-6 Red Fetch
5 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Taiga
3 Carpet of Flowers

And have some sort of sideboard configuration where you are always going to side out CoF in match-ups you don't need it, and bring in some goods. This set-up would also let you run a sweet 1-of Sylvan Library main, and well, I've always wanted to try that card in Goblins.

[Chatto]

I have been wondering... If we remove the aether vials for more clock, so it os easier to play topdeck mode...

Does it seem possible? I have been wondering about that.. But my build didn't work pretty well.

Besides, it lowers the chance of getting aether vial stuck on hand.. It adds pressure, and chrome mox gets more cards to be removed...

Aether Vial is one of our strongest cards, allowing you to play certain high cmc-cards. Don't blindly assume Lackey will connect. Of course a late game Vial isn't as good as a early one, but play it nevertheless.

Quick question for more experienced Goblins players:

In an opening hand with both Goblin Lackey and AEther Vial (and things to put into play with both) - is it more imperative to try to get the Vial going as soon as possible, or is it more pressuring to play the Lackey on the first turn to get things into play for free? Obviously knowledge of what your opponent is on might influence this decision, but in general what is the philosophy here?

Thanks!

It all depends on your MU and also your playstyle. There's no easy answer, nor one conclusive answer imo. Some like the controlish route (Vial), some like the aggresive route (Lackey).

[kinda]

Multiple vials vs blue decks on different converted costs is good...especially with vial at 4 into ringleader. Also turn 1 i need a good reason not to start with vial. Something like...you know your opponent is playing combo.

[jrw1985]

Quick question for more experienced Goblins players:

In an opening hand with both Goblin Lackey and AEther Vial (and things to put into play with both) - is it more imperative to try to get the Vial going as soon as possible, or is it more pressuring to play the Lackey on the first turn to get things into play for free? Obviously knowledge of what your opponent is on might influence this decision, but in general what is the philosophy here?

Thanks!

The best start depends on your MU and whether you're on the play/draw.

If you're on the draw Vial is generally better than Lackey.

If you're on the play Lackey is better against Combo. It's also very strong on the play against Death and Taxes.

Against midrange decks T1 Vial is generally better.

Against Miracles Vial is better.

[Kanti]

I would say on blind you slam Vial, since most decks are Island based decks. It does depend on your hand though. Do you have Caverns to protect the Lackey, a Tarfire or Scout to make it unblockable t2, or a fatty in your hand? Most cases would call for a blind Vial though, especially on the play.