View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    So, Vise Delver anyone? Fun Times, right?

    Good riddance DTT.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Holy shit.

    Wow.

    EDIT: Glad I bought 3 Beta Black Vise,
    Same (well 4 alpha I picked up a while ago), Now to go build a Vise Stasis deck to annoy everyone with...

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    For once (in a long time) WotC unbanned a card that will actually affect Legacy.

    I checked Starcity for Black Vises on a whim before the announcement. They were mostly sold out.
    Now they are sold out.

    And I believe the prices for Alpha and Beta just skyrocketed... Where they always $80 and $50 respectively?





    Just checked my order history; I got a SP Beta Black Vise for $14.99 that shipped on 12/2/14.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmcc13 View Post
    Same (well 4 alpha I picked up a while ago), Now to go build a Vise Stasis deck to annoy everyone with...
    Bonus points if the back up plan is vise + returning lands to player's hands with cards like Boomerang and Active Vocano.

    ...
    I, for one, welcome our new prison overlords.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    So happy with the Legacy and Vintage changes. Get fucked chalice for zero.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Interesting how much interst did this announcment bring to to the table. 123 users watching this thread currently

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Take that DTT you OP piece of garbage!

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Glad I bought 4 Beta Black Vise,
    I really regret not doing this.

    Excellent changes. Thanks, WotC

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Very curious to see how much play Black Vise gets...

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miagi View Post
    Interesting how much interst did this announcment bring to to the table. 123 users watching this thread currently
    Yeah, unfortunately the announcement derailed the thread from it's normal topic...

    Guys, should Brainstorm be banned?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I'm very happy with the update! :)
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
    1. Discuss the unbanning of Land Tax Earthcraft.
    2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
    3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
    4. Stifle Standstill.
    5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
    6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
    7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    They took my Chalice... Drat.

    Personally, while I am thankful for change I wish they would just unban things without thos stupid Prisoner exchange program.

    BTW guys, NASA is about to get make a big announcement. Time to clock watch that.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
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    Guys, should Brainstorm be banned?
    I think they're trying to hate it with the Black Vise unban. I doubt it will work, but it's worth giving the meta a while to shake out to see.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Yeah, unfortunately the announcement derailed the thread from it's normal topic...

    Guys, should Brainstorm be banned?
    Just give it a week, we'll be on our track again

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Step 1: ban DTT
    Step 2: try out Painful Truths

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miagi View Post
    Just give it a week, we'll be on our track again
    Damn you're optimistic.

    I give it 24 hours. :D

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    And I believe the prices for Alpha and Beta just skyrocketed... Where they always $80 and $50 respectively?
    I though they had alpha listed at ~$70 last week, could be wrong, but they have been going up a bit the last couple months.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Never thought in a million years that WOTC would do this so close to the GP. Ballsy!
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Over the past several months, the strategic diversity of Legacy has been diminished. Blue decks using Dig Through Time and various combo decks have occupied a greater portion of the metagame, pushing a lot of other decks out of the competitive scene. The problem is that other strategies tend to lose to the blue decks too frequently; they used to be more competitive, but now they fall behind when the blue decks reload for two mana using Dig Through Time. Dig Through Time is banned.
    This should put to rest the "Strategic Diversity" bullshit that the blue apologists in this thread have been spewing lately. As for Black Vise, sounds like it's time for some STASIS.
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