[COMM] Commander 2015 Spoiler Discussion

[Ace/Homebrew]

Expectations for legacy playable cards should be extremely low!

Obviously Myriad has no application to 1v1 formats.

Fiery Confluence is pretty interesting and appears to be the first in a cycle.
Mizzix of the Izmagnus looks like an homage to Steamflogger Boss. Maybe we'll see a rigger creature?

[iatee]

that 2RR spell would be a powerful modern sideboard card, but alas

[iamajellydonut]

The BG is probably the most interesting out of the bunch.

5cc Conditional Glorious Anthem seems pretty bad.

That said, I think we all wish the red sorcery was an instant.

[Barook]

5cc Conditional Glorious Anthem seems pretty bad.

I said interesting, not Legacy-playable. It can be fired off multiple times, so there's that.

Another card:


Why this isn't GW instead of BW - I don't know.

[Ace/Homebrew]

When Kalemne was originally handed off from design, she actually awarded you experience counters for playing Giant spells. As we iterated on the decks and cards during the development process, we ended up changing her to have the more open-ended condition you see here, so that players could choose how they wanted to build different varieties of Kalemne decks. However, a Giant-tribal theme is still present in the deck.

Hah! The Kalemne we got was actually the powered-UP version.

So Myriad is pretty useless with Legendary creatures?

[Barook]

So Myriad is pretty useless with Legendary creatures?

You can still get triggered abilities like CIPs.

It also works with static effects like Elesh Norn. Let's say you have 3 opponents, all their creatures get -6/-6 for a brief moment. See the rules regarding that.

[iamajellydonut]

Why this isn't GW instead of BW - I don't know.

First thing I thought as well.

[maharis]

Those are some bad cards.

The BG thing is interesting with Sylvan Safekeeper, but Titania probably better.

New Daxos has potential in some Serra's Sanctum deck, I think, but not enough to move the needle.

Scytheclaw instead of Batterskull in combo matchups would be funny, but Batterskull is probably just as good at putting games out of reach.

Fiery Confluence is nearly a guaranteed two-for-one if it resolves vs. any Stoneforge deck, but probably not as good as Kolaghan's Command.

Was really hoping for a good U/G creature for Zenith Bant, oh well.

[maharis]

also:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...ics-2015-11-02

"The five marquis legendary creatures in this release..."

I have been an editor for a long time and I've never seen anyone use the wrong "marquee." Unless they are trying to get some new usage to stick...

[rufus]

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The BG is probably the most interesting out of the bunch.

Mizzix of the Izmagnus works with X casting cost spells. In the unlikely event that he hits the table and survives, things can ramp quickly even without that.


Edit: I guess he *might* work in some kind of modern storm deck. Reedit: not legal.

[rufus]

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I have been an editor for a long time and I've never seen anyone use the wrong "marquee." Unless they are trying to get some new usage to stick...

Maybe Marquis is a new creature type. In addition to occupational creature type, we now get ranks of nobility.

[Megadeus]

Mizzix of the Izmagnus works with X casting cost spells. In the unlikely event that he hits the table and survives, things can ramp quickly even without that.


Edit: I guess he *might* work in some kind of modern storm deck.

Except for the fact that none of these cards will be modern legal

[rufus]

Except for the fact that none of these cards will be modern legal

Yeah, I can't be assed to remember what sets are legal where, so I checked a random Commander 2014 card on Gatherer, but, of course that one was probably a reprint from some legal set.

[Vicar in a tutu]

Fiery Confluence is interesting. Also of note: It's part of a cycle, according to Mark Rosewater. That makes me very curious what the black and the blue will do. A man can hope.

[Barook]

Yeah, I can't be assed to remember what sets are legal where, so I checked a random Commander 2014 card on Gatherer, but, of course that one was probably a reprint from some legal set.

Highly unlikely, unless they make experience counters more than just a throwaway niche mechanic.

Edit:

Fiery Confluence is interesting. Also of note: It's part of a cycle, according to Mark Rosewater. That makes me very curious what the black and the blue will do. A man can hope.

Blue is probably cantrip, bounce and ?
Black almost definitely has discard in it.

And both have Eternal-unplayable mana costs (4+, rather 5, depending on the effects).

[iamajellydonut]

Blue is probably cantrip, bounce and ?

Moist Confluence
Instant
Choose three. You may choose the same mode more than once.

• Counter target spell.
• Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
• Draw four cards.

[Finn]

I like the red confluence. Casual multiplayer commander games always seem to boil down to who has the best "I keel you all! Ahhahhahh!" endgame maneuvers. I loved Commander for the first few weeks until I detected the futility of strategic innovation. Aggro is pointless and combo gets boned by having too many opponents. Prison just annoys people without actually killing anyone. Etc.

Anything that looks and smells like aggro can only be good for Commander. The format needs a clock.

[Richard Cheese]

Moist Confluence
Instant
Choose three. You may choose the same mode more than once.

• Counter target spell.
• Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
• Draw four cards.

My Confluence is Moistened.

Meanwhile black will probably get something like:

Spooky Confluence
Extra Sorcery (Can only be cast during your first main phase)
Choose three. You may choose the same mode more than once.

• Search your library for a demon card with converted mana cost 7 or greater, reveal it, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it. You lose 4 life.
• Each opponent loses one life. Gain life equal to the amount of life lost this way.
• Put a 2/2 Zombie creature token onto the battlefield. If you do, sacrifice a creature.

[iamajellydonut]

Meanwhile black will probably get something like:

Spooky Confluence

"Fukken brilliant!" -WotC

[Quasim0ff]

Moist Confluence
Instant
Choose three. You may choose the same mode more than once.

• Counter target spell.
• Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
• Draw four cards.

Both 4Head and EleGiggle are suitable for that card.