View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Any chance on Goblin Lackey dropping a Dark-Dwellers to flash back a Brainstorm leads to a ban of some sort?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Another day Frantic Search stays on the banned list, another cut on my wrists. My Tide deck went back to shit after the DTT ban.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by jrsthethird View Post
    Any chance on Goblin Lackey dropping a Dark-Dwellers to flash back a Brainstorm leads to a ban of some sort?
    No.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by jrsthethird View Post
    Any chance on Goblin Lackey dropping a Dark-Dwellers to flash back a Brainstorm leads to a ban of some sort?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Imagine putting two goblins back and casting a Ringleader afterward! Seems too good for this format.
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    I mean, if you're going to play as 61st card, the card should cost over $100 I think.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Brainstorm, put two AEther vials back, ringleader #BrokeTheFormat

    We did it guys.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    This is childish, but amusing as fuck too.

    There is little chance that the new Goblin, or any other new Goblins will help a deck running Lackey. What that deck needs is an old Goblin but that one is banned.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Fuck. Which one of my quotes do I drop for this?
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Mcdonalds View Post
    Brainstorm, put two AEther vials back, ringleader #BrokeTheFormat

    We did it guys.
    Lackey trigger on the stack, Brainstorm, put two Goblins back, put Ringleader in, draw the Goblins and still have Vials

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Pyre View Post
    Lackey trigger on the stack, Brainstorm, put two Goblins back, put Ringleader in, draw the Goblins and still have Vials

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    Maybe already happened?

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    Luis Viciano, 2007 (no Vials in this one)
    http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=2744&iddeck=38060

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ESG View Post
    Maybe already happened?

    Luis Viciano, 2007 (no Vials in this one)
    http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=2744&iddeck=38060
    so the only R source are 2 barbarian rings, hmm

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloshthedark View Post
    so the only R source are 2 barbarian rings, hmm
    And from a time when a UR deck was packing 6 BeB effects and only 2 ReB ones... So legacy hasn't been always U-dominated!

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    That's when Goblins was a tour de force. Not so much any more.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Fuck. Which one of my quotes do I drop for this?
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    Something about how fun it is pulling the wings off flies and microwaving the neighbors cat?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloshthedark View Post
    so the only R source are 2 barbarian rings, hmm
    I'm guessing 4 of those islands might have been Volcanics

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I think Earthcraft, Mana Drain, and Mind Twist can all come off.
    Earthcraft can come off because 1. It can be disrupted with counterspell, vindicate, abrupt decay, etc. 2. There are better/faster combos out there in legacy than this plus Squirrel's Nest so that won't do much damage. 3. It requires a basic land.
    Mana Drain- There are not many high many spells running around in the decks that would run this and the decks they'd play. Most of the time it wouldn't be much better than counterspell which isn't even played that much.
    Mind Twist- Without acceleration it is worse than hymn to tourach in the early game and late game it just isn't that powerful compared to other cards that are being castedand with acceleration there is much better things to do than wasting your hand to launch a big mind twist at your opponent that can be misdirected back to yourself.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by LegacyIsAnEternalFormat View Post
    Earthcraft can... be disrupted with wasteland. It requires a basic land.
    Well...

    I'd love to NOT see Mana Drain in this format.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Mana Drain you, untap, Mind Twist on t3? Oh god...

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer View Post
    Well...

    I'd love to NOT see Mana Drain in this format.
    Mana Drain your Gurmag Angler, Miracle Entreat for 7, gg.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by jrsthethird View Post
    Mana Drain your Gurmag Angler, Miracle Entreat for 7, gg.

    Nope, wouldn't work this way.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maikhell View Post
    Nope, wouldn't work this way.
    Uh, yes it would. Gurmag Angler's converted mana cost is 7. It having Delve doesn't have any effect on that. Mana Draining Delve cards is just as broken as jrsthethird's comment implies.
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    Yeah, an insanely powerful block which put the "derp!" factor in Legacy completely over the top.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    Uh, yes it would. Gurmag Angler's converted mana cost is 7. It having Delve doesn't have any effect on that. Mana Draining Delve cards is just as broken as jrsthethird's comment implies.
    How are you miracling a card in your main phase with the mana from mana drain? Come on, read the cards.

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