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    Quote Originally Posted by supremePINEAPPLE View Post
    New cost reduction mechanic was spoiled too, could be some potential here with the delve creatures if they print something nice but it's gotta be good to sac one of those guys.


    Why god why 7 mana? God this could have been so playable even at 5 mana.

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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound

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    I'm very happy that the non-buy-a-box Thalia art is great.
    That looks alot better:


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    Quote Originally Posted by maraxusofkelds View Post
    Why god why 7 mana? God this could have been so playable even at 5 mana.
    Yes, beat Delver, Moon, Moat and Fly over Gofy. I hope we get a good rare with more power or simply cheaper.
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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound

    As good as the Eldrazi angel is once it is on the battlefield, there appears to be no way to reasonably get it there. There are just so many hoops to jump through. I have never seen Magic make a card so inaccessible. Not even Elbrus is so iron-clad with red tape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    As good as the Eldrazi angel is once it is on the battlefield, there appears to be no way to reasonably get it there. There are just so many hoops to jump through. I have never seen Magic make a card so inaccessible. Not even Elbrus is so iron-clad with red tape.
    Well I guess you can just "cast" the angle :D
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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Well... looks like I get to be disappointed!
    The puzzle piece contraptions are confirmed...

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    Yuck. WOTC found a way to do worse than flip cards: half a flip card. It's like they already played Flip It or Rip It before we opened the pack.

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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound



    All this talk about unplayable new mechanics, no talk about a sweet 1-drop "threshold" guy that trades with almost every ground threat in the format. Goyf, Angler, Eldrazi, Mandrils, etc.

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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound

    The fact that these triggers rely on the Creatures name makes for some interesting possibilities that I'm curious how they resolve.
    In this set there alone, I could control the Meld land while you control the red half, I attack with the clone-on-attack guy, make him a copy, and now I've met all the requirements for the Meld, except the back of the card.
    It'd be a shame if they updated the comprehensive rules to just say "yeah, but no"
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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound

    Quote Originally Posted by jrsthethird View Post


    All this talk about unplayable new mechanics, no talk about a sweet 1-drop "threshold" guy that trades with almost every ground threat in the format. Goyf, Angler, Eldrazi, Mandrils, etc.
    I suspect that with this not having Shroud and Delirium being much harder to turn on than Threshold in Delver decks that it doesn't make the cut. Deathtouch isn't a great consolation prize.

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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound

    Quote Originally Posted by jrsthethird View Post
    No talk about a sweet 1-drop "threshold" guy that trades with almost every ground threat in the format?
    That thing is pretty clearly a treefolk, which is annoying because the tribe could use a solid 1-drop.

    Dryads are nymphs or spirits that live amongst or within trees.
    This is pretty consistent in Magic lore, even as recently as Loam Dryad.



    Edit - I guess there aren't any leaves on it... so that means it's not a tree?
    Hmmmm... there aren't any leaves on the trees it's near either.
    I still say this thing is a treefolk.

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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    The fact that these triggers rely on the Creatures name makes for some interesting possibilities that I'm curious how they resolve.
    In this set there alone, I could control the Meld land while you control the red half, I attack with the clone-on-attack guy, make him a copy, and now I've met all the requirements for the Meld, except the back of the card.
    It'd be a shame if they updated the comprehensive rules to just say "yeah, but no"
    I expect it's already taken care of. There are already rules in place about trying to transform cards that don't actually have another face, like... Clone can't be transformed by Moonmist if it were copying a Delver of Secrets, because it doesn't actually have Insectile Aberration on the other side. Probably, Meld will work the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    That thing is pretty clearly a treefolk, which is annoying because the tribe could use a solid 1-drop.

    Dryads are nymphs or spirits that live amongst or within trees.
    This is pretty consistent in Magic lore, even as recently as Loam Dryad.

    Edit - I guess there aren't any leaves on it... so that means it's not a tree?
    Hmmmm... there aren't any leaves on the trees it's near either.
    I still say this thing is a treefolk.
    Too bad it's not a treefolk even though the artist drew a treefolk, but I always love me a 1-drop deathtoucher in limited.

    The red Meld card looks the best, and definitely will be annoying in Standard. The black one is good too, and the only one draftable. It's going to take some shenanigans for the white one to ever be good. (I guess I can start playing Stompy reanimator with Intuition and Victimize again? If I can Tooth and Nail, why not Tooth and Nail for an instawin combo?)

    Thalia is freaking bonkers somewhere, and probably more than one place in every format.

    Thalia's Lancers has tons of potential, it's an abusable tutor engine in white. Probably not Legacy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begle1 View Post
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    The red Meld card looks the best, and definitely will be annoying in Standard.
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    That red meld creature is pretty pushed on its own. I wouldn't count it out for modern.

    The white meld would could work with Nahriri in standard: Hard cast Gisela, then cheat Bruna in, or hardcast Bruna late game.

    I wonder how much they thought about the interaction between Identity Thief and the meld cards before printing them in the same set.

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    http://http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/cryptolithfragment.html

    Anyone else see this as a reference to Lovecraft's "The Colour out of Space"? I know the Eldrazi themselves and Innistrad draws a lot from Lovecraft and the like, but I thought this was a cool little nod, if it was intentional.
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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    That thing is pretty clearly a treefolk, which is annoying because the tribe could use a solid 1-drop.
    I think the biggest thing is the deep seeded emotional understanding that the right play is the right play regardless of outcomes. The ability to make a decision 5 straight times, lose 5 times because of it, and still make it the 6th time if it's the right play. - Jon Finkel

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
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    It'd be a shame if they updated the comprehensive rules to just say "yeah, but no"
    After watching the video, I'm guessing the rules will be written so that the cards have to have a matching pair of backs, both of which are part of the 'card' named in the ability. So, basically, no funny business.

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    If Oubliette hits a melded creature that has some aura attached to it, does the aura get attached to both pieces of the meld when it comes back?

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    Re: Eldritch Moon spoilers inbound

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    After watching the video, I'm guessing the rules will be written so that the cards have to have a matching pair of backs, both of which are part of the 'card' named in the ability. So, basically, no funny business.

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    If Oubliette hits a melded creature that has some aura attached to it, does the aura get attached to both pieces of the meld when it comes back?
    Also, when you blink a flipped card, it returns face-up, correct? So if you blink a Voltron, does it come back as individual cats? Like you could use Eldrazi Displacer to get the ETB triggers on Midnight Scavengers and Chittering host every turn? Do the robots come back tapped?
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    This seems interesting. 1U too much though?
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    Counterspell and creature bounce in one? Also has corner-case applications with Cast and Storm triggers.

    Killer card... I think it would see tons of Legacy penetration at 1, probably at Spell Pierce or Pyroblast levels.

    2 means you probably can't reliably use it to win a counter war. But still, so flexible. So tempo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkusjones View Post


    This seems interesting. 1U too much though?
    Color me impressed, no remand but it's not a counterspell so it will see much use for can't be countered stuff.

    Maybe wotc is thinking about modern blue stuff.
    But I can see it now, its a mistake and bans it immediately

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