View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by LegacyIsAnEternalFormat View Post
    Miracle Stopper
    As worded, it only stops Top. Brainstorm actually draws the cards and you only see them when they are in your hand. Fetchlands read 'search', not 'look', so I don't think it would do what you want.

    Either way, we're delving into Obligatory Shitty Card Creation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    As worded, it only stops Top. Brainstorm actually draws the cards and you only see them when they are in your hand. Fetchlands read 'search', not 'look', so I don't think it would do what you want.

    Either way, we're delving into Obligatory Shitty Card Creation.
    Ok then

    Miracle Stopper
    1WR
    Enchantment
    Can't Be Countered
    Player's cant counter spells, search libraries, draw more than 1 card each turn, or look at the top cards of libraries.


    This would make at least one WR strategy tier 1, and I ____in guarantee that

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by LegacyIsAnEternalFormat View Post
    Ok then
    They can still play Mentor and go nuts playing 1 mana spells.

    You'd want something more like:

    Miracle Stopper

    Enchantment
    Cannot be countered, Indestructible, Hexproof.
    As long as ~ is in play, you cannot lose the game and Miracles players cannot win the game.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    They can still play Mentor and go nuts playing 1 mana spells.

    You'd want something more like:

    Miracle Stopper

    Enchantment
    Cannot be countered, Indestructible, Hexproof.
    As long as ~ is in play, you cannot lose the game and Miracles players cannot win the game.
    I'll get you or any other challengers of this card up on Cockatrice and we'll see whether or not Miracles stands a chance against an RW deck with this card in it as a 4-of Ok?

    Edit:by this card I mean the card I made not his ____ty parody.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by LegacyIsAnEternalFormat View Post
    I'll get you or any other challengers of this card up on Cockatrice and we'll see whether or not Miracles stands a chance against an RW deck with this card in it as a 4-of Ok?

    Edit:by this card I mean the card I made not his ____ty parody.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Disen-shatter RW
    Instant
    Disen-shatter cannot be countered by activated or triggered abilities.
    Destroy Target Artifact or Enchantment.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Sweet something for the miracles mirror
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Mcdonalds View Post
    Sweet something for the miracles mirror
    Exactly what I thought. Perfect fit for Miracles to get even stronger and add another layer of uninteractivity to the format
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    Exactly what I thought. Perfect fit for Miracles to get even stronger and add another layer of uninteractivity to the format
    How does adding a card that is only good in the mirror make the deck stronger vis a vis the rest of the field...?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Miracle Stopper 2.0
    WR
    Instant
    Split Second
    Kicker-you may pay an additional X instances of 1colorless mana
    Destroy target artifact or enchantment, if this was kicked you may destroy an additional X target artifacts or enchantments.


    Destroys both sdt and cb for 3mana

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by LegacyIsAnEternalFormat View Post
    this should be deleted
    I was trying to warn you above that your efforts belong in the Obligatory Shitty Card Creation Thread. Responses there are going to be more constructively critical.

    But you doubled down instead...

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by LegacyIsAnEternalFormat View Post
    Ok then

    Miracle Stopper
    1WR
    Enchantment
    Can't Be Countered
    Player's cant counter spells, search libraries, draw more than 1 card each turn, or look at the top cards of libraries.


    This would make at least one WR strategy tier 1, and I ____in guarantee that
    No big deal, just a leyline of lifeforce, stranglehold, Spirit of the labyrinth, and Pithing needle naming Sensei's divining top all stapled together for 1WR and uncounterable. Seems reasonable.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dingo View Post
    No big deal, just a leyline of lifeforce, stranglehold, Spirit of the labyrinth, and Pithing needle naming Sensei's divining top all stapled together for 1WR and uncounterable. Seems reasonable.
    Well a couple people said its still not good enough to beat miracles so ya what can i say...

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by LegacyIsAnEternalFormat View Post
    Miracle Stopper 2.0
    WR
    Instant
    Split Second
    Kicker-you may pay an additional X instances of 1colorless mana
    Destroy target artifact or enchantment, if this was kicked you may destroy an additional X target artifacts or enchantments.


    Destroys both sdt and cb for 3mana
    Whew. Miracles would never lose to death and taxes again.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by LegacyIsAnEternalFormat View Post
    Miracle Stopper 2.0
    WR
    Instant
    Split Second
    Kicker-you may pay an additional X instances of 1colorless mana
    Destroy target artifact or enchantment, if this was kicked you may destroy an additional X target artifacts or enchantments.


    Destroys both sdt and cb for 3mana
    Still gets stopped by Nevermore or Meddling Mage out of the board. To be truly fair and balanced it needs to let you reveal it from your hand to change its name.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Watersaw View Post
    Still gets stopped by Nevermore or Meddling Mage out of the board. To be truly fair and balanced it needs to let you reveal it from your hand to change its name.
    Are you kidding me? What do you want me to make? all cards have a way of stopping them, and if they didnt theyd be overpowered.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Guys we are way off the beaten track here. There is a thread for this shit, please use it and leave this one for masterbation over Brainstorm. Because we all know that is more productive.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Brainstorm should be banned to make Thoughtseize better #ontopic

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Why the obsession with making discard better?

    I mean, if I had to choose between thoughtseize/duress being good and brainstorm being legal, I'm picking brainstorm almost every time
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    I still have a strong suspicion that if 'Thalia, Heretic Cathar' had been named 'Frank, Heretic Cathar', people would be a lot more skeptical of it.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    As someone who plays Modern a fair bit, I am use to discard now. It just kind of happens. Will say this though, a format heavy on discard incentives its player base not to invest in single card dominant strategies. Cheerios for example dies to discard backed up by anything that can punch hard. This means its not a good deck to play and win with. In Legacy, this would push Storm harder into a pit after you take Brainstorm away. Not that I am debating keeping BS, my views on the card are public knowledge at this point, but its still something to think about.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Do not make fun of lands masters, they've spent many years mastering the punishing fire technique in the secret loam monastery. Do not mistake them with the miracles masters, eternal rivals, they won't like it.
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    Fuck. Which one of my quotes do I drop for this?
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